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UFOs and we're going to be able to do

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all of that tonight on the show he is

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the absolute very very best I love it

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when Bryce is on the show so there you

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presentation later on this week in

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Hollywood on changing your reality and

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finances so I and and she's the best

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right so there you go that's what is

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tomorrow night

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on a show she is great she's a shaman

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you know that right

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newsroom live now tonight a bryce is

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able is here he's got a new book out

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lines we'll do that and and I was trying

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books tonight okay so get ready for that

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call the numbers of three two three

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week on the first our next late-night

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professional now here are the rules

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telling you competition is stiff good

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entries so far all of you thank you for

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go man oh I don't know that's what we

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want to do so the the entries so far

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have been great you must be a registered

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fate or not okay there's no purchase

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necessary all you have to do is go to

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Jimmy tortilla comm and register as a

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fate or not and you just go to our

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membership section right there and

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register we do that to confirm your

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email and who you are okay you must live

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in the United States contest rules vary

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by country we can't monitor all

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international laws you must submit an

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official pitch for the podcast that's

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what you do so just record it and the

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audio recording of your podcast your

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show idea who you are why you should be

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the next podcast star okay you have to

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name your podcast and you have to supply

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us with some artwork in the logo and

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banner form the to adduce you know for

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your website for promotion just like you

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would pitch anybody on your show idea

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you are going to pitch us so bring your

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a-game okay alright the entry so far the

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recordings have been really good and I

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was surprised by the quality and and and

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everybody's tone and voice and

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competition is stiff and I expected that

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the opposite but I was thinking you know

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what somebody's gonna enter this contest

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pick the next podcast are all entries

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all you have to do to submit your entry

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its last game changer right there and

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all of the rules are there how to enter

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is there and there is a special email to

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enter the contest now the grand prize

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will be one tascam mini studio creator

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u.s. 42 that's complete mixer Mike pries

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everything that you need effects there

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you go your interface for the world

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that'll be the cornerstone of your

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studio you're gonna get that you're

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gonna get a microphone and you're gonna

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get headphones all the cabling is

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included everything is done the rest is

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chosen by us the fade to black team with

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the entry that's got the best overall

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pitch the best podcast idea and artwork

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what your injury to just get you know no

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enter but man think about that

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two words air-conditioning so think

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about that it's gonna be a great event I

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already know who's I you know if I could

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talk right now and tell you what is

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going on oh man but anyway go tickets

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and info get get it going right now I'm

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gonna go ahead and retweet this thank

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you for that Bob very very cool yeah I

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can't retweet man what's up have I been

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a shadow band and Twitter know I can do

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it via Twitter I just can't do it via a

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tweet deck huh

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it's tweet deck acting funny let's see

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here

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now it says retweet now I can retweet

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okay I thought Twitter was uh was a

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penalizing me okay here we go where I'm

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at let's get this show crackin I've got

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computers updating over here to my right

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let's see oh it's at 95% it took exactly

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two hours to update it's still not done

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though

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by the way unbelievable um I had let's

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see here let's get this show cracking by

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the way happy birthday to today Sally

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Field is 71 now before you go back and

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say yeah she was great in this she was

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great in the a she was great no you know

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what soap dish that's what she was great

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in especially that scene where she

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passes out and she might have done a

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more than one more

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ethan hawke today is 47 one of the great

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science fiction films of all time

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Gattaca ethan hawke today 47 our dead

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guy's birthday today is I can't even

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believe I am saying this but I have to

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Glenn Frey mmm thank you 48 - 2016 died

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at the age of 67 man you know words

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can't express my appreciation of the

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effect that Glenn had on on generations

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literally generations one of the most

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gifted writers he was a great guitar

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player - musician but also one of the

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great voices in in history let alone

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music history and he's up there right

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now happy birthday Glenn Frey

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unbelievable on the state in history OTD

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1987 less than zero a movie about a

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group of wealthy young friends right

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here in los angeles california during

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the 1980s starring robert downey jr am

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andrew mccarthy james spader and Jami

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Gertz opens in theaters that movie

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affected me that was a great movie that

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was a good one also had the the hotel

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the nightclub that they wanted to rent

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right they wanted to invest and open up

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a nightclub

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that was the scream that was the was at

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the Roosevelt the the hotel down off of

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a MacArthur Park in downtown Los Angeles

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which is at that time was one of the

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it's still pretty crazy

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one of the seediest areas in all of the

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United States but those stairs with the

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red carpet going up I can't tell you how

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many nights I spent on those stairs and

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Anthony Kiedis I think they're Red Hot

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Chili Peppers which I had seen at that

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at that hotel a few times is in the

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movie too as well

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I think flee might even be in it and I

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have to go back and watch fader fact in

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2015 to Kahneman this is a fader fact

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this really happened in 2015 to Kahneman

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sold a fake goa painting

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for one-and-a-half million euros only to

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find out that the money that they were

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paid the one and a half million euros in

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cash was all counterfeit and that is a

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fader fact all right tonight Bryce is

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able to say we're going to talk about is

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this new book about the Beatles staying

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together we're gonna give away some of

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those books in a little bit too as well

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so get ready for that Colin number is

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three two three eight two five five zero

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four five I'm not gonna open up the

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other phone lines I'm just gonna keep it

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limited to one okay so just make your

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questioning good and you'll get one of

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Bryce's books okay now we're also going

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to talk about the craziness that has

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taken over Hollywood and Bryce is part

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of Hollywood he's been here for a long

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time

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and it goes without saying a CBS PBS CNN

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NBC the he's been a journalist and a

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reporter a prize-winning journalist from

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reporter for all of the major networks

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but he's also a writer screenwriter he's

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done a lot of television series lots of

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feature films and he of course co-wrote

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books with Richard Dolan 80 after

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disclosure an alternative history so

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there is nobody better to talk about

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what is going on in Hollywood today and

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that also includes the UFO subject and

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Tom DeLonge and JFK he's written about

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JFK all of this that Bryce has been

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talking about with not only alternative

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history but research and journalism it's

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all happening at the same time over the

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last two weeks very very interesting so

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tonight it's Bryce Abel here with us all

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night he is one of the best journalists

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and reporters of our generation and it

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is an honor and a privilege to have him

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here tomorrow night Trisha Eastman is

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back Wednesday night William Henry

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Thursday night of course is another

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Fator night with Jon Rappoport

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and is no more fake newsroom live now I

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wanted to talk about a couple of things

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that are going on right now

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in this country and it's not so much

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it's not politics although politics and

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the conspiracy of politics is easy to do

401
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it's easy to weave pop culture and the

402
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status quo right through that that that

403
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deep pit of mud but I don't have to this

404
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weekend though approved a couple of

405
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things and it's getting ugly out there

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we had another mass shooting and a

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church in Texas where 26 people were

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killed in a very very very small town I

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had read a report today that I think was

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4% 5% of the town died at 11:30 a.m.

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there just to go to church right so that

412
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that's pretty brutal and coming off of

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some of the other tragedies of course

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Las Vegas and other things that are

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going on right now in the world taking

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our site off of some of this breaking

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news that is going on out there seems to

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be the media's number one play and it is

419
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very a very effective and to have

420
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something like this where these news

421
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headlines now read you know the the

422
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worst mass shooting in Texas history the

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worst shooting in a church in the United

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States history these are these are

425
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headlines we don't need to read and I

426
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don't know what's going on with with

427
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that part and obviously this is a

428
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disturbed young man 26 years old he was

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convicted spent 12 months in prison

430
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United States Air Force beat his wife

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and his child and and other things and

432
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dishonorably discharged right okay

433
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conduct and and all of those like it

434
00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:35,220
should have been but apparently amongst

435
00:19:40,399 --> 00:19:37,679
other things the Air Force failed to

436
00:19:41,810 --> 00:19:40,409
report to the feds this guy's conviction

437
00:19:44,539 --> 00:19:41,820
somewhat he was convicted of so

438
00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:44,549
therefore he was allowed to you know

439
00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:46,559
gotten purchase guns and and didn't have

440
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anything in his background checks I find

441
00:19:53,690 --> 00:19:50,820
that pretty disturbing that that was

442
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allowed to happen and just mkl for it

443
00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:55,110
comes into play but I'm not going there

444
00:20:00,200 --> 00:19:58,050
yet but

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but this is what was more disturbing to

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00:20:10,070 --> 00:20:06,560
me was to see different journalists and

447
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celebrities out there from the left and

448
00:20:16,790 --> 00:20:15,000
the right claiming the same things and

449
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when I see that you know pointing the

450
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finger at the other side see it it's the

451
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Liberals fault see it's it's it's the

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it's the Wrights fault you know it's in

453
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blaming everybody and the cultural

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divide that has happened in this country

455
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is starting to get a little bit alarming

456
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and I'm almost at the point where I want

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to do nothing but tell everybody every

458
00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:47,990
single day get it together

459
00:20:54,350 --> 00:20:51,120
everybody is as allowed

460
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the media to manipulate and pollute

461
00:21:00,380 --> 00:20:56,430
their minds I'm the both extremes the

462
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two extremes out of the two extremes so

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much so that they have forgotten the

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reality of this is the United States

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this is America it's America first you

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know getting this this divide this this

467
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anger that is going on it's just like

468
00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:18,690
how do we stop this how do we stop this

469
00:21:22,250 --> 00:21:20,910
now you know you know when things go

470
00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:22,260
just a little bit too far they go a

471
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little bit too far and then you know

472
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there's no turning back and you get to

473
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the point where how do we get here how

474
00:21:34,580 --> 00:21:31,170
did we get here now and that's where we

475
00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:34,590
are at all over a church shooting in

476
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Texas right the the Las Vegas shooting

477
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where the extremes are blaming each

478
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other are the craziest most outrageous

479
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claims and nobody wants to just sit back

480
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and go wait a minute what is making us

481
00:21:58,730 --> 00:21:55,890
do this it's country first it's country

482
00:22:01,340 --> 00:21:58,740
first you want this you want this thing

483
00:22:05,170 --> 00:22:01,350
to implode from the inside nobody wins

484
00:22:08,020 --> 00:22:05,180
that is just a [\h__\h] thought

485
00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:08,030
we can't we can't continue to go there

486
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:11,540
we have to back up and go look we are

487
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all different the reason why this

488
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:17,030
country is so great is that everybody is

489
00:22:22,810 --> 00:22:20,000
different that we don't agree and that

490
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we work out stuff and we and we figure

491
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things out and we move forward and we

492
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laugh at and everything else because

493
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that's what makes us great how do we

494
00:22:36,220 --> 00:22:34,070
lose sight of that how do we lose sight

495
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you know what you know what's most

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important honestly you know what's most

497
00:22:44,410 --> 00:22:41,900
important if if if two things happened

498
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two things happened in this country we

499
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would stop fighting and looking at each

500
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other okay if two things happen one we

501
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got rid of the the homeless and in the

502
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sick and the the unhealthy and we took

503
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care of all of that across this country

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that first and foremost and you know

505
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what else second everybody just makes a

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little more money little more money a

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little less unemployment just kick all

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of that up so there is happiness where

509
00:23:17,740 --> 00:23:14,750
we're not tripping on what is what has

510
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happened with the middle class if all of

511
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that is done a few less fighter jets

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build a funeral but a couple of aircraft

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carriers let's let's take care of the

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schools the education system the the

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bridges and the roads and the

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unemployment issues and just take care

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of all of that here and get back to what

518
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:35,179
we enjoyed which was just being

519
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Americans you know I too loved the one

520
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great thing you ever seen the movie the

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burbs the burbs the burbs was America

522
00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:49,760
that was right where we had two crazy

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Vietnam vet down the street we had the

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hippies down the road we had some crazy

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Republican across the street and the

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00:24:01,150 --> 00:23:59,600
Democratic neighbors and in the dude

527
00:24:02,770 --> 00:24:01,160
across the street that worked for some

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00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:02,780
software company that never came out of

529
00:24:07,180 --> 00:24:04,910
his house ever you never saw him ever

530
00:24:09,580 --> 00:24:07,190
somehow we went to work his wife stayed

531
00:24:12,130 --> 00:24:09,590
home every day never saw but on July 4th

532
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the entire block up and down the street

533
00:24:16,210 --> 00:24:13,210
man closed it down

534
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:16,220
fireworks getting drunk cooking dead

535
00:24:20,330 --> 00:24:17,130
animal

536
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munching down having fun everybody

537
00:24:26,930 --> 00:24:24,120
together blowing stuff up that nobody

538
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:26,940
cared we all had our difference and

539
00:24:34,310 --> 00:24:30,210
that's what made America great and today

540
00:24:36,650 --> 00:24:34,320
a church 26 people are shot and killed

541
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and suddenly it's the right it's the

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left into this is that that it would

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stop with that stop with it that's the

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conspiracy the conspiracy here it is so

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obvious there is a divide being

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performed right now on this country

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there's a divide and we're fighting over

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nothing

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who cares about Hillary cares about

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Trump who cares about Russia who cares

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about uranium one who cares about

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Trump's son who cares about Lou who

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cares about Mueller who cares it's all

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about nothing and it's done with

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ingenious planning and forethought to

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keep us fighting get back to what's real

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get back to what made this country great

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and with that I have no audio pull this

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off I am down to the wire here and I

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have no idea this computer still has not

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restarted so I can play something fake

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should I play something fake oh man I'm

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just gonna do this I have no idea what

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commercials are about to play but I'm

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gonna do it anyway

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it's what I have to do this has fade to

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black I'm your host Jimmy Church I've

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got computers that I guarantee this

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thing's gonna update one more time fade

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to black tonight

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Bryce Sabol he'll be right here I'm your

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host Jimmy Church on the game changer

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church radio

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all right welcome back fade to black

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I'm your host Jimmy Church on the game

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changer networking que GRA the planet

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you can follow me on twitter @ JT radio

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I think you'd follow price I think I

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don't notice it's probably the real

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Bryce Abel he's up there on Twitter

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we'll get those hot links up here in

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just a second Bryce Abel winner of the

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WGA Award for screenwriting and has

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created and produced five prime-time

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television series including dark skies

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one of my favorites the crow one of my

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favorites and worked on a dozen TV

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writing staffs

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he produced features Atlantis Mortal

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Kombat and miniseries Blackbeard

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pandemic his latest film the last battle

651
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based on a New York Times best seller

652
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will be shot by Studio canal the summer

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in Europe his breakpoint alternative

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history book series is the winner of the

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prestigious sidewise award and continues

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this Christmas with the publication of

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once there was a way a novel about the

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beetle staying together we're gonna give

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away some of those books tonight so get

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ready for that he was the first writer

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since Rod Serling elected to serve as

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the chairman CEO of the television

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Academy the organization that Awards the

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Emmys he has taught screenwriting as an

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adjunct professor at the USC School of

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Cinematic Arts and has been an

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award-winning on-air journalist for PBS

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CNN and NBC he is an active dues-paying

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member of the WGA Writers Guild of

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America

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the Screen Actors Guild tonight we're

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going to discuss how today Hollywood has

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been tipped upside down with sexual

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allegations from every part of the

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industry and will also leave the UFO

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community and his research into the

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possibility of disclosure and the recent

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JFK document dump all of that with

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alternative history music and the

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Beatles I don't know how he does it but

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we're gonna pull that off tonight I'd

682
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like to welcome back price table Bryce

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how are you about I think I should quit

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after a great intro like that I think I

685
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should just go home

686
00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:10,620
you know what's home so it's okay you

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know what's funny and it's all true

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though and

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and when everything that you write about

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everything that you've been producing

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and creating and been vocal about for so

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many years has come come to pass in the

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last two weeks you got to be either

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feeling pretty good or feeling pretty

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strange well I feel like we live in

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interesting times and I think probably

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many of your listeners feel the same way

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that things that you know I remember

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growing up the idea that there would be

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a Tide presidential election nobody

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would thought of that the fact that a

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president would actually be impeached

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and go to the Senate trial nobody

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thought that would happen right the fact

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you know a Donald Trump election nobody

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thought that I mean we just live in

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interesting times and and and frankly

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anything could happen now but I do I

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just wanted to say I heard you just

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before the break talking about country

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first and and I really think that's

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something we all have to try to work a

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little bit harder at and I really want

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to salute you for bringing it up it's

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it's important for us to remember that

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and and I I do I I don't understand you

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know if if I could run for president if

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there is a way that I could become some

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kind of activists that would be my

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platform quit being idiots that would be

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my hat that would be the hat that's

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that's a direct approach it might even

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work you know because nobody's ever

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tried that before so maybe that would

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work I mean the only thing that I think

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is you were saying you know you know

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just stop caring

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I think we still care I care a lot about

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a lot of things but I do think that we

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should practice some of these skills

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that we've been taught about how to get

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along with other people and how to try

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to reach consensus and how to how to

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hear what the other person is saying

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before you have to speak your own truth

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and if we could do a little bit more of

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that I mean we have to be able to get

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people in a room together who feel very

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differently about something

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take the gun issue you have to be able

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to talk to people that the Second

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Amendment is everything and then you

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have to talk to people who feel like

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we've got to get some of these guns off

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the streets and you got to get everybody

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in a room and you got to find out if

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there's a way that we can figure out how

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to move forward and

749
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and we we seem to have lost that these

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00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:31,860
days yeah you know and what's

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00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:35,399
interesting here with this tragedy I

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mean just craziness that happened in

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Texas over the weekend I just kidding

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00:34:40,940 --> 00:34:39,210
man

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I mean church is supposed to be a safe

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place man out of haha

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out of everything that's supposed to be

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00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:47,840
the safest place and here we have

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somebody that probably by all accounts

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should not have been able to purchase

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guns right and he goes into this church

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00:34:59,720 --> 00:34:57,210
kills 26 people so then you have that

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00:35:02,690 --> 00:34:59,730
the side that's gonna say see we need

764
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more gun control right and then you have

765
00:35:09,260 --> 00:35:06,420
the fact that he was shot by a resident

766
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or by a civilian with a gun that

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happened to have a gun and and shot him

768
00:35:15,050 --> 00:35:12,840
and then so you had the other side go

769
00:35:16,820 --> 00:35:15,060
and see it the civilian you didn't have

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00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:16,830
gun he wouldn't have been at guns he

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00:35:22,670 --> 00:35:18,480
would have been shot and we've got this

772
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:22,680
weird position now that is why our file

773
00:35:27,410 --> 00:35:24,720
our forefathers in this country made

774
00:35:29,150 --> 00:35:27,420
sure that we didn't have one system in

775
00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:29,160
place that we have multiple systems for

776
00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:31,350
checks and balances where everybody

777
00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:34,380
could have a voice this argument that we

778
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:36,720
have right now in front of us is a

779
00:35:42,980 --> 00:35:39,810
wonderful argument to have we are in a

780
00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:42,990
country where we can have this debate

781
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:45,900
it's not right or wrong it's like you

782
00:35:49,370 --> 00:35:47,490
know but that's exactly what made this

783
00:35:51,859 --> 00:35:49,380
country great people are losing sight of

784
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:51,869
that they'd rather argue and point

785
00:35:55,099 --> 00:35:53,850
fingers and blame instead of

786
00:35:57,620 --> 00:35:55,109
understanding that we live in a country

787
00:36:00,440 --> 00:35:57,630
where we can have this debate what what

788
00:36:02,570 --> 00:36:00,450
if we had some kind of author just crazy

789
00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:02,580
tater ship where we didn't have these

790
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,900
choices or voices right it's shocking

791
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:08,880
and you said Church is where you ought

792
00:36:13,790 --> 00:36:10,800
to be safe but I'd say you you know

793
00:36:15,740 --> 00:36:13,800
little kids in school ought to be safe

794
00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:15,750
and I think people to go to a

795
00:36:21,890 --> 00:36:18,630
country-western concert ought to be safe

796
00:36:23,330 --> 00:36:21,900
there's we've got a problem that I don't

797
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:23,340
think anybody can say we don't have a

798
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:26,490
problem we do have a problem we don't

799
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:28,410
seem to agree on any of the solutions

800
00:36:33,380 --> 00:36:31,170
but unless you learn to talk to each

801
00:36:35,420 --> 00:36:33,390
other you'll never agree on them so I

802
00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:35,430
you know we we have work to do

803
00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:37,380
yeah we we do and and the fact that

804
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:39,480
you're speaking out like you you just

805
00:36:44,580 --> 00:36:41,290
did that's part of the work

806
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:44,590
and I hope that your listeners take that

807
00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:47,200
work to their workplaces tomorrow and to

808
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:50,680
their homes and and maybe the legacy we

809
00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:52,210
have to create now is learning how to

810
00:36:59,690 --> 00:36:54,760
speak to each other again well speaking

811
00:37:03,110 --> 00:36:59,700
about responsibilities you your career

812
00:37:06,030 --> 00:37:03,120
has been centered around not only

813
00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:06,040
excellence in journalism and reporting

814
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:07,390
but also working for the biggest

815
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:10,240
networks in the country and don't you

816
00:37:15,690 --> 00:37:12,910
think that the mass media today there's

817
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:15,700
some responsibility here on what they

818
00:37:20,730 --> 00:37:18,400
are doing with with causing this divide

819
00:37:22,830 --> 00:37:20,740
in this country they you know it seems

820
00:37:24,210 --> 00:37:22,840
like it's it's premeditated they know

821
00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:24,220
exactly what they're doing and they're

822
00:37:31,290 --> 00:37:27,390
not doing anything to defuse it well I

823
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:31,300
do think that many I don't buy what

824
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:33,610
Trump is saying about fake news that

825
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:36,370
seems to be just silliness there's a lot

826
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:38,890
of journalists who I know and who I

827
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:40,960
respect who were who are trying to do

828
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:43,810
good work but I will say one thing

829
00:37:49,380 --> 00:37:46,570
one thing I learned in my very first

830
00:37:52,650 --> 00:37:49,390
week on the job in a television station

831
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:52,660
as a reporter it is that when you go out

832
00:37:56,970 --> 00:37:55,150
and at least back then you know that was

833
00:38:00,060 --> 00:37:56,980
a while ago but when you went out in the

834
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:00,070
field to report a story you would you'd

835
00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:02,050
get your pictures you'd find the person

836
00:38:06,270 --> 00:38:04,120
who was saying one thing and then you'd

837
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:06,280
often find a person who said the exact

838
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:08,170
opposite and it led to a kind of

839
00:38:13,230 --> 00:38:10,720
journalism that I call some say yes some

840
00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:13,240
say no we saying it may be journalism

841
00:38:17,340 --> 00:38:15,760
and so in a in a minute a half you'd

842
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:17,350
have one side then the other side and

843
00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:18,850
then the reporter would do their stand

844
00:38:22,890 --> 00:38:21,190
up and say you know I guess we'll never

845
00:38:25,230 --> 00:38:22,900
know where we'll know soon or whatever

846
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:25,240
and and I think that that's carried over

847
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:29,770
into our cable news talking heads the

848
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:33,370
coverage every even Fox needs to put on

849
00:38:38,820 --> 00:38:35,440
the token liberal and you know the other

850
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:38,830
networks and cable people put on the the

851
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:41,680
token conservatives or whatever because

852
00:38:47,340 --> 00:38:44,650
it's always presented as conflict we're

853
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:47,350
never really achieving solutions we're

854
00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:49,870
talking about the conflict so I do agree

855
00:38:54,090 --> 00:38:51,640
with you in that regard but that's kind

856
00:38:56,190 --> 00:38:54,100
of baked into the cake of journalism

857
00:38:59,490 --> 00:38:56,200
the eye I think when journalists

858
00:39:00,750 --> 00:38:59,500
misbehave and don't do the and don't do

859
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:00,760
the right thing then they should be

860
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:02,290
called out on it but so should our

861
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,720
politicians and I think that if you ask

862
00:39:10,740 --> 00:39:06,640
the founding fathers they would have

863
00:39:13,770 --> 00:39:10,750
said we need these journalists to hold

864
00:39:15,390 --> 00:39:13,780
us accountable and and I think by and

865
00:39:17,310 --> 00:39:15,400
large journalists do that they're not

866
00:39:18,690 --> 00:39:17,320
perfect they're certainly not perfect

867
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:18,700
but the politicians aren't perfect

868
00:39:22,980 --> 00:39:20,650
either and the world isn't perfect we

869
00:39:24,450 --> 00:39:22,990
live in an imperfect world and we better

870
00:39:28,770 --> 00:39:24,460
get used to it and we better deal with

871
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:28,780
it I have noticed over the last few

872
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:32,050
years and I've reported on this a lot to

873
00:39:37,530 --> 00:39:34,570
my audience when you when you go and you

874
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:37,540
read a breaking story or something in or

875
00:39:41,070 --> 00:39:39,040
you hear something no matter what your

876
00:39:44,130 --> 00:39:41,080
choice of network is it doesn't matter

877
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:44,140
but take the story flip it over 180

878
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:46,000
degrees and you're going to be closer to

879
00:39:50,850 --> 00:39:48,400
the truth and you can have the same

880
00:39:53,490 --> 00:39:50,860
breaking story coming from multiple

881
00:39:57,060 --> 00:39:53,500
networks and every one of them will put

882
00:39:59,550 --> 00:39:57,070
their slant on it and it seems like the

883
00:40:03,090 --> 00:39:59,560
reporting now the news has become

884
00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:03,100
opinions driven by the platform that

885
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:05,350
they the agenda that they want to push

886
00:40:11,310 --> 00:40:09,970
forward instead of the facts why well

887
00:40:15,810 --> 00:40:11,320
we're not getting the facts from the

888
00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:15,820
White House right now either so we could

889
00:40:19,140 --> 00:40:17,230
probably do a couple of rounds on that

890
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:19,150
one I don't think the media is as

891
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:21,130
irresponsible maybe as you do and

892
00:40:25,170 --> 00:40:22,930
certainly not as irresponsible as the

893
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:25,180
president thinks but I think that there

894
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:27,010
are elements of that as I said some of

895
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:31,090
it is baked in and some of it derives

896
00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:33,850
from the story being covered there are

897
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:36,280
certain things that they cover very well

898
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:37,930
and then there are other things where

899
00:40:42,660 --> 00:40:41,110
they have certain things they see the

900
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:42,670
world in a certain way and I know we'll

901
00:40:47,250 --> 00:40:44,650
be talking about JFK tonight that's

902
00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:47,260
certainly one way that you can say the

903
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:49,390
media sees it in one way that's out of

904
00:40:56,180 --> 00:40:51,130
continuity with how I see it for example

905
00:40:58,830 --> 00:40:56,190
and I think also we are so well used to

906
00:41:01,940 --> 00:40:58,840
social media and the media itself right

907
00:41:05,070 --> 00:41:01,950
now that we all have seen things that

908
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:05,080
don't line up with our reactions I'll

909
00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:06,730
give you you know the best example I

910
00:41:09,660 --> 00:41:07,750
could say is

911
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:09,670
it used to be that the only people who

912
00:41:13,650 --> 00:41:11,680
really distrusted the media were the

913
00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:13,660
ones who actually had a story done about

914
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:15,790
them and you know they'd watch the story

915
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:17,290
that night and they'd say well that's

916
00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:19,090
not the way it really went down or

917
00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:21,070
that's not what I meant or whatever and

918
00:41:26,940 --> 00:41:23,980
it's it's an imperfect science trying to

919
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:26,950
represent reality because as we've seen

920
00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:30,400
on gun control and so many other issues

921
00:41:36,540 --> 00:41:34,270
we don't see reality the same way and so

922
00:41:39,950 --> 00:41:36,550
it's kind of hard to agree that someone

923
00:41:43,140 --> 00:41:39,960
you know we we do tend to want to see

924
00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:43,150
the cable station that represents our

925
00:41:48,690 --> 00:41:46,270
reality most accurately and I think it

926
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:48,700
might do people some good to start like

927
00:41:54,330 --> 00:41:52,210
I watch all cable news the ones that I

928
00:41:56,340 --> 00:41:54,340
agree with the ones I disagree with I

929
00:41:59,160 --> 00:41:56,350
just try to feed my head with a lot of

930
00:42:02,250 --> 00:41:59,170
different opinions because that's I look

931
00:42:03,930 --> 00:42:02,260
at that as my job but and I've always

932
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:03,940
looked at that way as a journalist but

933
00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:06,610
I'm wondering if more people who aren't

934
00:42:10,890 --> 00:42:08,620
involved in journalism should still look

935
00:42:13,410 --> 00:42:10,900
at it as their job to try to expose

936
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:13,420
themselves to more ideas and even ideas

937
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:15,490
that are challenging to their worldview

938
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:17,440
because there's a lot of other people in

939
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:19,690
the world that don't see the things the

940
00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:22,240
way that you might see them so we need a

941
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:23,470
little more tolerance a little more

942
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:25,570
empathy I don't want to preach I mean

943
00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:29,410
obviously I'm not perfect about that and

944
00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:31,150
and and you're not either and and

945
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:33,430
neither are your listeners so which

946
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:35,290
should I you know clearly we all need to

947
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:36,910
try a little harder at this the world is

948
00:42:41,070 --> 00:42:38,710
in trouble right now there's no question

949
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:41,080
about it some of it is environmental

950
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:45,850
some of it is political but 'men trouble

951
00:42:52,050 --> 00:42:48,330
and we all need to pitch in when you

952
00:42:54,990 --> 00:42:52,060
were a full-time you know journalist

953
00:42:59,570 --> 00:42:55,000
reporter on air and and out there doing

954
00:43:02,760 --> 00:42:59,580
your thing were you influenced by

955
00:43:05,550 --> 00:43:02,770
something other than yourself was your

956
00:43:08,430 --> 00:43:05,560
judgment ever influenced you know is

957
00:43:10,290 --> 00:43:08,440
there is there a puppet master out there

958
00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:10,300
that is controlling the network's

959
00:43:15,570 --> 00:43:11,260
themselves

960
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:15,580
I never saw it at my level I do think

961
00:43:20,490 --> 00:43:18,310
that you know there I first of all we

962
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:20,500
could just answer that in in some

963
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:21,530
specific

964
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,050
elodie because we we know for example

965
00:43:29,170 --> 00:43:26,480
the CIA has worked very hard over the

966
00:43:31,180 --> 00:43:29,180
years to place assets and to buy assets

967
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:31,190
in media as they have in many other

968
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:33,530
areas so yeah there are some

969
00:43:38,590 --> 00:43:35,690
puppetmaster aspects to the whole thing

970
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:38,600
but I know I myself never saw that what

971
00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:42,530
I saw more would be the deficiencies

972
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:44,270
that I think I see on the air now which

973
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:47,810
is for at the beginning back when Edward

974
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:49,970
R Murrow was doing his thing the idea

975
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:51,920
was to cover it cover the news in a

976
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:55,450
legitimate and accurate way but as as

977
00:44:00,280 --> 00:43:58,610
television matured what happened is

978
00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,290
instead of walling off the news

979
00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:02,720
department and leaving it to its own

980
00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:05,270
devices and to follow the edicts of

981
00:44:09,730 --> 00:44:07,760
journalism as best they could what we

982
00:44:11,770 --> 00:44:09,740
instead did is tell them that they had

983
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:11,780
to follow the same rules as the rest of

984
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:13,910
the TV station they had to make money

985
00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:18,410
they had to have ratings and so the the

986
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:20,030
the people who I saw

987
00:44:26,260 --> 00:44:22,810
meddling most of all were the people who

988
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:26,270
were the general managers who basically

989
00:44:32,170 --> 00:44:30,050
and the owners who basically didn't see

990
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:32,180
journalism is a high calling but saw it

991
00:44:38,010 --> 00:44:35,450
as a revenue source right and right and

992
00:44:40,510 --> 00:44:38,020
and and that is something that

993
00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:40,520
journalism schools all over America

994
00:44:46,090 --> 00:44:43,250
today are still arguing about and I

995
00:44:47,830 --> 00:44:46,100
think it's a fair question what about do

996
00:44:50,860 --> 00:44:47,840
you think there's room out there don't

997
00:44:51,970 --> 00:44:50,870
laugh don't laugh Bryce do you think

998
00:44:57,150 --> 00:44:51,980
that there's room out there for

999
00:45:01,420 --> 00:44:57,160
something like GNN the good news network

1000
00:45:03,550 --> 00:45:01,430
succeed I think people have tried bad I

1001
00:45:05,590 --> 00:45:03,560
had a friend I used to walk with every

1002
00:45:07,420 --> 00:45:05,600
weekend and that was his thing why isn't

1003
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:07,430
there more good news on right can't they

1004
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:09,050
just you know lead with the good news

1005
00:45:14,980 --> 00:45:11,510
well first of all let's go back to what

1006
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:14,990
news actually is if you know if the

1007
00:45:19,690 --> 00:45:17,090
movie theater every day projects the

1008
00:45:22,450 --> 00:45:19,700
film at the right time that's not news

1009
00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:22,460
but if the movie theater catches on fire

1010
00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:26,900
and burns down that's news so too

1011
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:30,880
I think that you have seen people be

1012
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:33,530
aware of the feeling that you're you're

1013
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:34,650
saying and

1014
00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:37,410
certainly more shows try to put good

1015
00:45:43,790 --> 00:45:40,680
news into their their broadcasts but

1016
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:43,800
like I watch I thought most of the time

1017
00:45:49,310 --> 00:45:46,170
if I'm gonna watch one of the major

1018
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:49,320
Network news shows i watch NBC and for a

1019
00:45:52,940 --> 00:45:50,970
long time they've been trying to stick

1020
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:52,950
that good news thing at the end of the

1021
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:55,110
day of the show yeah and that's the part

1022
00:45:59,240 --> 00:45:57,090
where I want to just click off right I

1023
00:46:00,890 --> 00:45:59,250
mean I I feel like look I want to know

1024
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:00,900
what's going on with North Korea you

1025
00:46:05,570 --> 00:46:03,930
know I want to know what's going on you

1026
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:05,580
know in Texas I want to know what's

1027
00:46:10,730 --> 00:46:08,490
going on in places where there's news

1028
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,740
happening and when when they get to the

1029
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:12,720
oh isn't this a sweet story

1030
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:15,090
it doesn't reach me that doesn't mean it

1031
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:17,250
doesn't reach other people i watch with

1032
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:19,050
my wife a lot and she likes those

1033
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:21,810
stories i tend to go out and you know

1034
00:46:28,670 --> 00:46:24,240
that's when I leave and go get a drink

1035
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,680
or something just so yes there is room

1036
00:46:33,020 --> 00:46:30,480
for that whether there's room for that

1037
00:46:35,540 --> 00:46:33,030
as an entire show they have tried it has

1038
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,550
been on the air before and it has been

1039
00:46:40,580 --> 00:46:37,440
canceled so there's your answer it

1040
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,590
didn't get the ratings so HNN the happy

1041
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:42,720
news network not a good idea not a good

1042
00:46:47,420 --> 00:46:44,850
revenue you know what I mean

1043
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:47,430
the nice thing you can say about that is

1044
00:46:53,390 --> 00:46:50,490
it's a fine idea to explore and as long

1045
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:53,400
as you're going to let the marketplace

1046
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:55,890
tell you what works and what doesn't buy

1047
00:47:00,620 --> 00:46:58,770
by ratings and money you'll get a good

1048
00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:00,630
answer and the answer currently is

1049
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,260
people say they want good news they do

1050
00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:06,560
say that a lot but they don't actually

1051
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:08,670
want it that bad because they don't

1052
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:10,410
watch it when it's offered to them well

1053
00:47:16,610 --> 00:47:13,050
you know what's strange about that is

1054
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:16,620
this is what I don't do this is what I

1055
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:19,110
do do and don't do on on this show in

1056
00:47:25,370 --> 00:47:22,110
this network I don't do politics I don't

1057
00:47:28,580 --> 00:47:25,380
talk about Isis beheading videos I don't

1058
00:47:30,620 --> 00:47:28,590
I don't go down the negative road if I

1059
00:47:34,580 --> 00:47:30,630
delve into any of that it's the

1060
00:47:36,740 --> 00:47:34,590
conspiracy of what is going on that that

1061
00:47:39,230 --> 00:47:36,750
is that stuff what are we gonna talk

1062
00:47:41,420 --> 00:47:39,240
about we'll see and and and look at the

1063
00:47:43,970 --> 00:47:41,430
success you know people come here

1064
00:47:47,849 --> 00:47:43,980
because we don't do that I think that's

1065
00:47:51,569 --> 00:47:47,859
good I you know and and we live

1066
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:51,579
in a world where well in the world I'm

1067
00:47:56,279 --> 00:47:54,249
in show business right now there's we're

1068
00:47:58,380 --> 00:47:56,289
having what we call peak TV Verta peak

1069
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:58,390
oil we have peak TV now we are creating

1070
00:48:04,259 --> 00:48:01,359
more television series than ever ever in

1071
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:04,269
history and the quality of them is

1072
00:48:09,299 --> 00:48:06,730
better than it's ever ever been I agree

1073
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:09,309
and yet the truth of the matter is who's

1074
00:48:13,859 --> 00:48:11,710
watching all this there's like 450

1075
00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:13,869
television series in production right

1076
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:15,910
now more or less crazy and the thing is

1077
00:48:21,329 --> 00:48:18,880
I because television is my life I guess

1078
00:48:23,759 --> 00:48:21,339
you know as you mentioned I was the TV

1079
00:48:27,329 --> 00:48:23,769
Academy Chairman I produced television I

1080
00:48:29,759 --> 00:48:27,339
write television so I also watch a lot

1081
00:48:32,970 --> 00:48:29,769
of television I try to watch as much as

1082
00:48:35,549 --> 00:48:32,980
I possibly can and if I'm lucky if I'm

1083
00:48:38,759 --> 00:48:35,559
lucky in a year all I've seen 50 shows

1084
00:48:41,309 --> 00:48:38,769
50 different shows it's amazing it's me

1085
00:48:42,450 --> 00:48:41,319
I mean I'll ask I'll ask that when I'm

1086
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:42,460
at the dentist I'll say what are you

1087
00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:44,410
watching on TV just to find out what the

1088
00:48:49,799 --> 00:48:46,720
street Nielsen's are for that and you

1089
00:48:52,049 --> 00:48:49,809
know he'll tell me and and and it's like

1090
00:48:54,420 --> 00:48:52,059
just a couple of shows most people watch

1091
00:48:57,359 --> 00:48:54,430
maybe between five and ten shows so

1092
00:49:00,089 --> 00:48:57,369
that's that's part of the so we we we

1093
00:49:02,460 --> 00:49:00,099
have lost you know again going back to

1094
00:49:05,279 --> 00:49:02,470
your original point one of the things we

1095
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:05,289
have lost is we used to have when we

1096
00:49:10,890 --> 00:49:08,130
were a three Network nation we had more

1097
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:10,900
common things that happened that we

1098
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:12,730
could talk about we had more things at

1099
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:15,369
the water cooler that we had shared

1100
00:49:21,779 --> 00:49:18,130
experience with and now we're all in our

1101
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:21,789
little enclaves yep you know you watch

1102
00:49:28,049 --> 00:49:24,249
the shows you watch it so it's kind of

1103
00:49:29,759 --> 00:49:28,059
funny you know when people actually

1104
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:29,769
learned that I've created some primetime

1105
00:49:33,749 --> 00:49:31,569
shows they always say well what are they

1106
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:33,759
and I only anymore I don't even try to

1107
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:36,609
tell them because the truth is I'll get

1108
00:49:40,799 --> 00:49:38,079
the same response now I never saw that

1109
00:49:43,410 --> 00:49:40,809
or oh really what was that about because

1110
00:49:46,109 --> 00:49:43,420
nobody watches the same thing anymore

1111
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:46,119
even even popular shows even when

1112
00:49:52,380 --> 00:49:49,450
Breaking Bad was the show that everybody

1113
00:49:53,609 --> 00:49:52,390
was talking about you would think when

1114
00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:53,619
I'm here in Hollywood that's what it

1115
00:49:57,079 --> 00:49:55,390
seemed like yes but in the middle of the

1116
00:50:01,390 --> 00:49:57,089
country most people had never seen it

1117
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:01,400
Zillo the last year read and I

1118
00:50:04,930 --> 00:50:03,050
you know we're in Manhattan we're

1119
00:50:06,490 --> 00:50:04,940
shooting our new TV show right on

1120
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:06,500
History Channel out there shooting and

1121
00:50:10,620 --> 00:50:08,450
we're dying to show everybody we'll

1122
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:10,630
watch that's the exception to the rule

1123
00:50:15,970 --> 00:50:13,280
yeah you know what the network did to us

1124
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:15,980
they released internationally before the

1125
00:50:21,220 --> 00:50:18,710
United States this man you gotta love

1126
00:50:23,830 --> 00:50:21,230
that right so anyway we're in Times

1127
00:50:27,180 --> 00:50:23,840
Square all the billboards in Times

1128
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:27,190
Square were stranger things right yeah

1129
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:29,930
everywhere and here that's not on a

1130
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:32,510
network well it's on network but it's

1131
00:50:38,980 --> 00:50:36,410
not on you know Fox ABC CBS NBC it's not

1132
00:50:41,890 --> 00:50:38,990
on Showtime right it's not HBO

1133
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:41,900
it's not even USA Network right it's

1134
00:50:47,230 --> 00:50:44,930
Netflix and and they were when

1135
00:50:49,060 --> 00:50:47,240
everywhere Netflix dropped that without

1136
00:50:51,310 --> 00:50:49,070
a word they just kind of put it on the

1137
00:50:54,190 --> 00:50:51,320
you know out there on the platform and

1138
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:54,200
people found it they barely even talked

1139
00:51:00,460 --> 00:50:58,130
about it prior to doing that so yeah I

1140
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:00,470
mean there's a good example some but

1141
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:02,930
again again I would say we think

1142
00:51:07,570 --> 00:51:05,090
everybody's talking about it but in

1143
00:51:11,260 --> 00:51:07,580
reality if you ask most people if they

1144
00:51:12,910 --> 00:51:11,270
watch it that the vast majority will say

1145
00:51:14,260 --> 00:51:12,920
no I don't watch it I heard about I

1146
00:51:17,110 --> 00:51:14,270
heard something about hearing it's good

1147
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:17,120
and and look who and when you think

1148
00:51:21,340 --> 00:51:19,760
about I haven't the only thing I'm

1149
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:21,350
watching right now we're gonna head

1150
00:51:24,610 --> 00:51:22,610
towards a break here in a second Bryce

1151
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:24,620
the only thing that I'm watching right

1152
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:28,310
now on network television is Orville

1153
00:51:33,820 --> 00:51:31,040
Wright on Fox and which absolutely is

1154
00:51:37,660 --> 00:51:33,830
fantastic by the way but that's it I

1155
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:37,670
have no clue nothing on what is going on

1156
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:40,000
as far as a scripted or unscripted

1157
00:51:47,590 --> 00:51:43,250
series on network television I don't

1158
00:51:48,910 --> 00:51:47,600
have a clue nothing nothing at all and

1159
00:51:50,620 --> 00:51:48,920
are you specifically drawing a

1160
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:50,630
distinction between network and say

1161
00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:53,210
cable and pay television because you

1162
00:51:57,310 --> 00:51:55,070
don't watch broadcast TV anymore

1163
00:52:00,880 --> 00:51:57,320
the choice is like you're talking about

1164
00:52:03,820 --> 00:52:00,890
are so vast now yeah you can go a la

1165
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:03,830
carte you can go with Amazon Prime you

1166
00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:05,330
can go with Netflix you can go with

1167
00:52:10,940 --> 00:52:07,910
DirecTV you can you can pick and choose

1168
00:52:13,579 --> 00:52:10,950
what network whatever you know

1169
00:52:16,819 --> 00:52:13,589
it's the choices now with apps and

1170
00:52:19,730 --> 00:52:16,829
having a fox app or a USA Network app or

1171
00:52:22,660 --> 00:52:19,740
a Showtime app and clear and totally

1172
00:52:26,810 --> 00:52:22,670
just get your programming from an app

1173
00:52:29,210 --> 00:52:26,820
from though it's you know this as an

1174
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,220
Academy member we get the screening

1175
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:31,680
tapes for all the television series we

1176
00:52:34,910 --> 00:52:33,510
got more than ever before this year and

1177
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:34,920
get this here's a stat you can go to

1178
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:38,970
break on I guess Netflix sent out 21

1179
00:52:44,930 --> 00:52:41,970
pounds of DVDs and supporting materials

1180
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:44,940
to every one of the 18,000 Academy

1181
00:52:50,180 --> 00:52:47,760
members do the math I mean it's

1182
00:52:55,069 --> 00:52:50,190
unbelievable how does that arrive and

1183
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,079
and what is it D or Z it's beautiful

1184
00:52:59,810 --> 00:52:57,359
it's all packaged I mean it's an

1185
00:53:01,250 --> 00:52:59,820
environmental crime I suppose but you

1186
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,260
know I think five years from now they

1187
00:53:05,150 --> 00:53:03,119
won't be sending the DVDs out everything

1188
00:53:08,660 --> 00:53:05,160
will be done online but this year for

1189
00:53:12,380 --> 00:53:08,670
example our house must have received

1190
00:53:16,130 --> 00:53:12,390
close to 200 packages from various

1191
00:53:21,170 --> 00:53:16,140
television entities with their materials

1192
00:53:23,870 --> 00:53:21,180
in it but Netflix Netflix out the nicest

1193
00:53:26,750 --> 00:53:23,880
packaged and most voluminous stuff this

1194
00:53:32,420 --> 00:53:26,760
year was Netflix couldn't they do it all

1195
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:32,430
on a USB Drive they could and in fact

1196
00:53:39,050 --> 00:53:36,079
that's eventually going to happen but

1197
00:53:41,780 --> 00:53:39,060
well if the real bottom line reason is

1198
00:53:43,970 --> 00:53:41,790
Academy still makes money licensing

1199
00:53:45,319 --> 00:53:43,980
their mailing lists to the people that

1200
00:53:47,660 --> 00:53:45,329
want to mail these things to their

1201
00:53:52,220 --> 00:53:47,670
members so it's a source of income for

1202
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:52,230
the Academy and you know again decades

1203
00:53:57,740 --> 00:53:54,480
ago it was the VHS tapes that showed up

1204
00:54:00,530 --> 00:53:57,750
now it's the DVDs but even the DVDs are

1205
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:00,540
going away and it won't be coming on

1206
00:54:04,339 --> 00:54:02,130
thumb drives it'll simply you'll get a

1207
00:54:05,630 --> 00:54:04,349
code and there'll be a special place

1208
00:54:07,609 --> 00:54:05,640
where you can watch everything it's

1209
00:54:10,730 --> 00:54:07,619
already starting to happen technology is

1210
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:10,740
going to overwhelm the situation and fix

1211
00:54:16,849 --> 00:54:13,890
the the problem of all this waste and

1212
00:54:18,770 --> 00:54:16,859
abuse of you know precious materials I

1213
00:54:21,170 --> 00:54:18,780
guess yeah all of the reviewing and

1214
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:21,180
everything that I did this last year for

1215
00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:22,890
the first time it's been like this

1216
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:24,910
before it was always on DVD or some

1217
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:27,610
thing but now everything with the

1218
00:54:32,370 --> 00:54:29,920
networks is you know you got a code and

1219
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:32,380
you're you're going to some you know

1220
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,510
private domain and you review everything

1221
00:54:39,140 --> 00:54:36,640
there you know and that's it makes it

1222
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:39,150
better I mean I think that's good also

1223
00:54:45,330 --> 00:54:42,850
one of the reasons that the the entities

1224
00:54:48,210 --> 00:54:45,340
like Netflix and and Amazon don't want

1225
00:54:50,460 --> 00:54:48,220
to do that is that sort of evens the

1226
00:54:53,490 --> 00:54:50,470
playing field and the people that have

1227
00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:53,500
money and want to want to sort of lobby

1228
00:54:58,050 --> 00:54:56,260
for their Emmy aggressively they want to

1229
00:55:00,030 --> 00:54:58,060
be able to put this beautiful packaging

1230
00:55:01,620 --> 00:55:00,040
around their materials and their

1231
00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:01,630
submissions that's why they do it which

1232
00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:03,670
is probably inside baseball for your

1233
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:05,950
listeners and doesn't really matter but

1234
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:07,810
that's what's happening yeah the bribe

1235
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:09,970
it's a bribe that's how it is yeah it's

1236
00:55:13,590 --> 00:55:11,710
a bribe you are let's take a break right

1237
00:55:14,850 --> 00:55:13,600
here our guest tonight Bryce is able

1238
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:14,860
when we come back we're gonna talk about

1239
00:55:19,350 --> 00:55:17,440
his new book and maybe we'll actually

1240
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:19,360
wait a little bit for that because I

1241
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:20,710
want to open up the phone lines a little

1242
00:55:25,770 --> 00:55:23,410
bit later and we're gonna give away some

1243
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:25,780
books tonight again if you get through

1244
00:55:30,780 --> 00:55:27,970
on the phone lines just make it a good

1245
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:30,790
question this is fade to black our guest

1246
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:32,290
tonight by Sabol I'm your host Jimmy

1247
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:33,450
Church we'll be right back

1248
00:55:52,050 --> 00:55:49,310
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1249
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:52,060
this is fade to black with Jimmy Church

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on the game changer radio network and K

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[Music]

1310
00:59:25,540 --> 00:59:23,810
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

1311
00:59:26,650 --> 00:59:25,550
here Jimmy Church tonight our guest

1312
00:59:30,580 --> 00:59:26,660
Bryce Sabol

1313
00:59:33,550 --> 00:59:30,590
now we're gonna be able to get sex in

1314
00:59:39,580 --> 00:59:33,560
Hollywood UFOs JFK and the Beatles all

1315
00:59:44,590 --> 00:59:39,590
in one conversation so buckle up it

1316
00:59:46,210 --> 00:59:44,600
sounds so easy now

1317
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:46,220
you've been how long have you been in

1318
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:47,570
Hollywood how long have you been in the

1319
00:59:53,260 --> 00:59:51,650
biz oh you know years ago my agent said

1320
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:53,270
stop putting all your credits on your

1321
00:59:57,610 --> 00:59:56,330
resume it just it says you're here too

1322
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:57,620
long so if I answer that question

1323
01:00:03,160 --> 00:59:59,680
honestly I'll have to leave the business

1324
01:00:08,860 --> 01:00:03,170
no I've been here let's see how long

1325
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:08,870
have I been in oh well I was alive when

1326
01:00:12,940 --> 01:00:11,090
JFK was killed so you can do your own

1327
01:00:14,530 --> 01:00:12,950
math well that was a month old so that

1328
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:14,540
doesn't really matter so you were months

1329
01:00:18,550 --> 01:00:16,970
old okay all right yeah well by the way

1330
01:00:20,290 --> 01:00:18,560
I know you're gonna give out some of

1331
01:00:22,990 --> 01:00:20,300
these books so I just want to put one

1332
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:23,000
thing out there for your listeners if

1333
01:00:26,350 --> 01:00:24,770
you want to kind of figure out what the

1334
01:00:27,820 --> 01:00:26,360
book is even about it's called once

1335
01:00:29,470 --> 01:00:27,830
there was away what if the Beatles

1336
01:00:31,180 --> 01:00:29,480
stayed together and there's a lovely

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website that you can look at while

1338
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you're listening to us it's called what

1339
01:00:37,180 --> 01:00:35,360
if Beatles calm that may inspire a

1340
01:00:40,750 --> 01:00:37,190
question or two for later in the show

1341
01:00:44,890 --> 01:00:40,760
what if Beatles calm and speaking of

1342
01:00:48,850 --> 01:00:44,900
that when we look at the man we look at

1343
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:48,860
the history of Hollywood the rumors

1344
01:00:54,790 --> 01:00:52,250
about what is going on today and it

1345
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:54,800
started with Cosby you know in a weird

1346
01:01:02,890 --> 01:00:58,480
way it started with him but the rumors

1347
01:01:04,930 --> 01:01:02,900
were daily fodder out here it was just a

1348
01:01:09,130 --> 01:01:04,940
wave doesn't make excuses for anything

1349
01:01:12,310 --> 01:01:09,140
but the industry was always painted with

1350
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:12,320
that kind of light the the term casting

1351
01:01:16,420 --> 01:01:14,810
couch is like it's it's a universal it's

1352
01:01:20,250 --> 01:01:16,430
probably in the Webster's dictionary

1353
01:01:25,870 --> 01:01:20,260
right yeah and and and here we are today

1354
01:01:27,730 --> 01:01:25,880
I feel that okay I feel I'm gonna say

1355
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:27,740
this in a direct way I don't think that

1356
01:01:33,220 --> 01:01:30,650
anybody camera people sound people make

1357
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:33,230
up people that people that are working

1358
01:01:38,170 --> 01:01:35,310
that work in the industry

1359
01:01:40,550 --> 01:01:38,180
here in Burbank every single day nobody

1360
01:01:42,290 --> 01:01:40,560
aside from the actors and the writers

1361
01:01:44,180 --> 01:01:42,300
and the producers in the direct nobody

1362
01:01:46,820 --> 01:01:44,190
wanted to say anything because people

1363
01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:46,830
wanted to stay employed and you know and

1364
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:49,200
that's the truth you know you know so

1365
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:51,570
and again I'm not making excuses for it

1366
01:01:56,540 --> 01:01:54,540
but this has been talked about forever

1367
01:01:58,340 --> 01:01:56,550
out here but today no it's interesting

1368
01:02:00,070 --> 01:01:58,350
though if you want to think of a

1369
01:02:02,450 --> 01:02:00,080
metaphor for the sexual harassment

1370
01:02:03,980 --> 01:02:02,460
tsunami that's going on right now think

1371
01:02:05,330 --> 01:02:03,990
of the Berlin Wall

1372
01:02:06,620 --> 01:02:05,340
you know it couldn't come down it

1373
01:02:10,310 --> 01:02:06,630
couldn't come down and then it came down

1374
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,320
overnight this is one of those issues

1375
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:12,480
that's been festering for a long time

1376
01:02:17,300 --> 01:02:15,210
but when it falls it falls fast and

1377
01:02:19,610 --> 01:02:17,310
furious by the way I just before we went

1378
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:19,620
on just for fun i sat down and I just

1379
01:02:25,850 --> 01:02:22,290
said I'm gonna just off the top of my

1380
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:25,860
head see how many names I can come up

1381
01:02:31,820 --> 01:02:29,610
with this I did literally while I was

1382
01:02:34,790 --> 01:02:31,830
hearing your intro these are the names

1383
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:34,800
Harvey Weinstein Bill Cosby Kevin Spacey

1384
01:02:40,700 --> 01:02:37,710
Donald Trump Bill O'Reilly Roger Ailes

1385
01:02:43,850 --> 01:02:40,710
Dustin Hoffman James Toback Roy Price

1386
01:02:45,830 --> 01:02:43,860
Bob Weinstein George HW Bush Mark

1387
01:02:47,630 --> 01:02:45,840
Halperin Ben Affleck those are just the

1388
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:47,640
ones I came up with that have been

1389
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:52,050
pulled into this net since you know

1390
01:02:56,990 --> 01:02:54,690
recently in the last year and most of

1391
01:02:59,090 --> 01:02:57,000
them in the last month who would have

1392
01:03:01,880 --> 01:02:59,100
thunk right it's like nobody knows

1393
01:03:04,550 --> 01:03:01,890
scared now right as far as coming

1394
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:04,560
forward we have we do we started the

1395
01:03:07,820 --> 01:03:05,760
show by saying we live in interesting

1396
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:07,830
times this is part of it

1397
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:11,810
this is a change a long time coming

1398
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:15,810
there's been an abuse of people and

1399
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:20,730
power for a long time it is not true

1400
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:23,490
that everybody knew about it I you know

1401
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:24,720
have never you know I've heard the

1402
01:03:29,810 --> 01:03:27,090
phrase casting couch I've never seen

1403
01:03:33,170 --> 01:03:29,820
anything like that I mean I never you

1404
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:33,180
know I've personally never observed any

1405
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:36,720
of this behavior that got these people

1406
01:03:42,410 --> 01:03:40,770
on that list I just read III I don't

1407
01:03:45,230 --> 01:03:42,420
doubt that it's there but I never had

1408
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:45,240
first-hand knowledge where I could tell

1409
01:03:49,759 --> 01:03:47,610
anyone other than and I think you and I

1410
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:49,769
have talked about this before

1411
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:52,319
my mentor in the business was a man

1412
01:03:58,940 --> 01:03:57,210
named Bill Asher and bill his last

1413
01:04:00,829 --> 01:03:58,950
television show was my first television

1414
01:04:04,339 --> 01:04:00,839
show and he sort of taught me how to

1415
01:04:07,220 --> 01:04:04,349
produce but bill sort of came from old

1416
01:04:10,220 --> 01:04:07,230
Hollywood where the rules were very

1417
01:04:13,789 --> 01:04:10,230
different and he behaved in a different

1418
01:04:16,759 --> 01:04:13,799
way and he would not have a job today if

1419
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:16,769
if he was early he's dead now but if he

1420
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:18,510
was around he wouldn't have a job in

1421
01:04:24,259 --> 01:04:20,730
Hollywood under these circumstances he

1422
01:04:26,990 --> 01:04:24,269
was a power player here in Hollywood I

1423
01:04:30,289 --> 01:04:27,000
mean there's there's no quite the a

1424
01:04:33,980 --> 01:04:30,299
surname in Hollywood is is is up there

1425
01:04:35,569 --> 01:04:33,990
right yeah he he he literally directed I

1426
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:35,579
think the first couple of seasons of I

1427
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:38,010
Love Lucy and he he's the guy that

1428
01:04:42,859 --> 01:04:41,490
married Elizabeth McGovern and came up

1429
01:04:43,730 --> 01:04:42,869
with the nose twitch and things like

1430
01:04:48,140 --> 01:04:43,740
that

1431
01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:48,150
terrifically talented comedic figure but

1432
01:04:54,650 --> 01:04:51,569
again he hung with the Rat Pack he hung

1433
01:04:56,839 --> 01:04:54,660
out with JFK and Sammy Davis jr. and

1434
01:04:59,630 --> 01:04:56,849
Frank Sinatra and Peter Lawford and

1435
01:05:01,730 --> 01:04:59,640
those kind of guys and they all lived in

1436
01:05:04,039 --> 01:05:01,740
a different world that world no longer

1437
01:05:07,069 --> 01:05:04,049
exists if it existed a month ago it

1438
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:07,079
doesn't exist now would you when we look

1439
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:10,650
at you know it's it's one thing with

1440
01:05:14,599 --> 01:05:12,690
with Harvey Weinstein

1441
01:05:16,430 --> 01:05:14,609
I mean it's painful to even look at

1442
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:16,440
pictures of them now but well it always

1443
01:05:23,210 --> 01:05:21,089
has been that way but the way when it

1444
01:05:25,519 --> 01:05:23,220
comes down to people like Kevin Spacey

1445
01:05:27,890 --> 01:05:25,529
now Kevin was supposed to be one of the

1446
01:05:31,759 --> 01:05:27,900
good guys and if you think of the

1447
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:31,769
successes that he has had not only with

1448
01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:34,970
television but with film are

1449
01:05:39,710 --> 01:05:37,710
extraordinary he is at the upper upper

1450
01:05:43,999 --> 01:05:39,720
crust of everything that is Hollywood

1451
01:05:47,410 --> 01:05:44,009
and the success of house of cards may

1452
01:05:50,299 --> 01:05:47,420
have allowed him to continue this but

1453
01:05:52,670 --> 01:05:50,309
who would have thought that that that is

1454
01:05:55,220 --> 01:05:52,680
one of the most watched shows in recent

1455
01:05:57,620 --> 01:05:55,230
history and it doesn't matter now

1456
01:06:01,819 --> 01:05:57,630
everybody he brought down I mean the

1457
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:01,829
accent is he is he was at the top I mean

1458
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:02,640
his

1459
01:06:07,519 --> 01:06:04,410
days are over and that's just not gonna

1460
01:06:11,509 --> 01:06:07,529
happen anymore and and he's gone I mean

1461
01:06:14,089 --> 01:06:11,519
III don't you know we we I guess semis

1462
01:06:16,339 --> 01:06:14,099
sort of forgave Mel Gibson because he's

1463
01:06:18,380 --> 01:06:16,349
working again which I don't know what

1464
01:06:20,660 --> 01:06:18,390
that says that means anti-semitism is

1465
01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:20,670
better than sexism and sexual harassment

1466
01:06:28,460 --> 01:06:25,710
I don't know but I just don't see some

1467
01:06:30,410 --> 01:06:28,470
of these guys working again in the same

1468
01:06:34,250 --> 01:06:30,420
way I just don't see that happening I

1469
01:06:38,019 --> 01:06:34,260
think that Hollywood is going has been

1470
01:06:41,799 --> 01:06:38,029
already changed by these revelations and

1471
01:06:43,970 --> 01:06:41,809
there's just no there there will be

1472
01:06:45,890 --> 01:06:43,980
accommodations they'll be understandings

1473
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:45,900
etc but there's no going back

1474
01:06:50,750 --> 01:06:48,329
the the old Hollywood that allowed this

1475
01:06:53,420 --> 01:06:50,760
to be part of it I think is dead and

1476
01:06:55,789 --> 01:06:53,430
buried just like you know with what is

1477
01:06:58,099 --> 01:06:55,799
going on in Washington right now with

1478
01:07:00,170 --> 01:06:58,109
Mueller right and sealed indictments and

1479
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:00,180
there's going to be a rest impending so

1480
01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:02,130
everybody in Washington is freaking out

1481
01:07:06,049 --> 01:07:04,079
they don't know they do they don't trust

1482
01:07:08,749 --> 01:07:06,059
their friends you know can you imagine

1483
01:07:11,269 --> 01:07:08,759
what that atmosphere is like in in

1484
01:07:14,769 --> 01:07:11,279
Washington it's the same thing here now

1485
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:14,779
in Hollywood well you know what though I

1486
01:07:20,420 --> 01:07:18,089
think my attitude about the Moller

1487
01:07:21,890 --> 01:07:20,430
investigation and all that is if you're

1488
01:07:24,529 --> 01:07:21,900
prepared to tell the truth you have

1489
01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:24,539
nothing to fear so the people who are

1490
01:07:28,970 --> 01:07:26,910
quaking in their boots in Washington

1491
01:07:30,829 --> 01:07:28,980
right now probably would prefer not to

1492
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:30,839
tell the truth anybody about whatever it

1493
01:07:34,730 --> 01:07:32,250
is that they're gonna be asked about and

1494
01:07:37,339 --> 01:07:34,740
the same thing is sort of true with the

1495
01:07:39,319 --> 01:07:37,349
whole Hollywood sexual harassment thing

1496
01:07:41,690 --> 01:07:39,329
which is if you haven't done anything

1497
01:07:45,170 --> 01:07:41,700
that you're ashamed of then you don't

1498
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:45,180
have anything to fear so I think the

1499
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:48,089
people who are freaking out if there are

1500
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:51,210
indeed people out here in town freaking

1501
01:07:55,759 --> 01:07:53,039
out are the ones that are wondering if

1502
01:07:59,930 --> 01:07:55,769
that thing they did is going to catch up

1503
01:08:01,670 --> 01:07:59,940
with them and the people who don't have

1504
01:08:04,430 --> 01:08:01,680
any skeletons in their closet probably

1505
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:04,440
sleep pretty well at night the can you

1506
01:08:11,509 --> 01:08:09,210
imagine the amount of minds right now

1507
01:08:13,609 --> 01:08:11,519
right now is you and I are talking in

1508
01:08:18,590 --> 01:08:13,619
Hollywood are going okay man

1509
01:08:22,939 --> 01:08:18,600
what did I do in 1985 that's what it's

1510
01:08:26,450 --> 01:08:22,949
like right now well and and look I I

1511
01:08:29,090 --> 01:08:26,460
don't have sympathy for the more

1512
01:08:31,039 --> 01:08:29,100
egregious behavior

1513
01:08:32,510 --> 01:08:31,049
there aren't there's almost nothing that

1514
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:32,520
I've heard that Harvey Weinstein did

1515
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:36,480
that I find even reasonable in anyway so

1516
01:08:44,689 --> 01:08:38,730
that that's one thing but there are

1517
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:44,699
different shades of misbehavior and he's

1518
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:47,130
certainly at the one scale although he's

1519
01:08:51,050 --> 01:08:49,170
exceeded on that scale even by Bill

1520
01:08:53,559 --> 01:08:51,060
Cosby you know there's there's people

1521
01:08:56,809 --> 01:08:53,569
that have done that and even I mean

1522
01:08:58,849 --> 01:08:56,819
there's no snow way to even look at the

1523
01:09:01,700 --> 01:08:58,859
Cosby case and find anything other than

1524
01:09:04,189 --> 01:09:01,710
contempt for that same with Weinstein

1525
01:09:07,249 --> 01:09:04,199
then there are other people who may be

1526
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:07,259
worried because again the things that

1527
01:09:12,140 --> 01:09:09,359
are acceptable in one time period are

1528
01:09:15,260 --> 01:09:12,150
not acceptable in another time period I

1529
01:09:17,180 --> 01:09:15,270
don't I'm not making excuses for anybody

1530
01:09:19,550 --> 01:09:17,190
whatsoever I'm just saying there may be

1531
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:19,560
certain ways people have talked to each

1532
01:09:22,820 --> 01:09:21,359
other over the years that would not be

1533
01:09:25,789 --> 01:09:22,830
acceptable today that might have been

1534
01:09:27,260 --> 01:09:25,799
acceptable a few years ago but again I

1535
01:09:28,970 --> 01:09:27,270
don't think those people have that much

1536
01:09:30,829 --> 01:09:28,980
to worry about I think the people who

1537
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:30,839
are worried are the ones who have done

1538
01:09:34,999 --> 01:09:33,210
things who have abused their power and

1539
01:09:37,039 --> 01:09:35,009
it doesn't just go to Hollywood if you

1540
01:09:39,649 --> 01:09:37,049
think if you want to talk about powerful

1541
01:09:41,959 --> 01:09:39,659
men who have abused female employees

1542
01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:41,969
you'd have to put President Kennedy in

1543
01:09:47,629 --> 01:09:45,089
that list you'd have to put President

1544
01:09:49,849 --> 01:09:47,639
Clinton in that list and apparently you

1545
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:49,859
have to now put President HW Bush in

1546
01:09:58,399 --> 01:09:55,290
that list right so I you know it this

1547
01:10:00,830 --> 01:09:58,409
has this isn't just a Hollywood issue it

1548
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:00,840
just happens to be an issue that got

1549
01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:02,730
gets more attention because of the

1550
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:05,520
Hollywood people who are falling during

1551
01:10:11,180 --> 01:10:08,130
this time but I think all of America is

1552
01:10:12,620 --> 01:10:11,190
probably learning a few things about how

1553
01:10:14,060 --> 01:10:12,630
we're supposed to treat each other it

1554
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:14,070
goes back again to the start of your

1555
01:10:18,050 --> 01:10:16,530
show it's like you you want to hold your

1556
01:10:21,649 --> 01:10:18,060
head up high then don't be an [\h__\h]

1557
01:10:24,020 --> 01:10:21,659
right Oh big be a good person and be

1558
01:10:27,290 --> 01:10:24,030
decent to the people you meet and it'll

1559
01:10:31,020 --> 01:10:27,300
probably be okay I remember

1560
01:10:34,169 --> 01:10:31,030
going back into the 80s and throughout

1561
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:34,179
the 90s the the rumors and the

1562
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:36,730
conversations that were going on with my

1563
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:40,000
actor friends and musician friends there

1564
01:10:48,090 --> 01:10:45,040
were certain rumors and stories that

1565
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:48,100
were going around what Corey Haim was

1566
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:50,770
not a secret in Hollywood you know what

1567
01:10:56,580 --> 01:10:54,610
what what what that was about and today

1568
01:10:59,760 --> 01:10:56,590
you know it's being spoken about but it

1569
01:11:02,490 --> 01:10:59,770
was there was a lot of crazy talk about

1570
01:11:04,979 --> 01:11:02,500
the things that were going on the goings

1571
01:11:07,380 --> 01:11:04,989
on up in the Hollywood Hills and and you

1572
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:07,390
would hear these stories and and the

1573
01:11:12,030 --> 01:11:09,610
foundation now seems to be very very

1574
01:11:14,910 --> 01:11:12,040
solid for all of it but the point is

1575
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:14,920
nobody took it a step further you know

1576
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:16,449
there was no journalism that was

1577
01:11:21,540 --> 01:11:18,400
involved nobody wanted to uncover the

1578
01:11:24,350 --> 01:11:21,550
story it was left completely alone it

1579
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:24,360
seemed like it was you know Hollywood's

1580
01:11:34,530 --> 01:11:32,220
that's a cut

1581
01:11:39,020 --> 01:11:34,540
that is the most complex part of this

1582
01:11:42,959 --> 01:11:39,030
issue there's no question you know I

1583
01:11:45,390 --> 01:11:42,969
have heard stories about wild parties

1584
01:11:47,729 --> 01:11:45,400
and stuff and but I wasn't at the party

1585
01:11:50,700 --> 01:11:47,739
in fact I don't go to parties like that

1586
01:11:52,410 --> 01:11:50,710
so I had no personal experience on that

1587
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:52,420
you'd hear it and you'd go well that

1588
01:11:57,959 --> 01:11:55,690
sounds kind of bad but it wasn't your

1589
01:12:01,520 --> 01:11:57,969
story you know and I wasn't a journalist

1590
01:12:06,810 --> 01:12:01,530
investigating that I have you know I

1591
01:12:08,220 --> 01:12:06,820
have spoken out when like when Bill did

1592
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:08,230
a couple of things that I didn't approve

1593
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:10,090
I told him I didn't like it that kind of

1594
01:12:12,450 --> 01:12:10,449
thing

1595
01:12:14,939 --> 01:12:12,460
I think you you know there's been some

1596
01:12:16,410 --> 01:12:14,949
of that but you know I one thing I

1597
01:12:17,729 --> 01:12:16,420
thought we might be it might be

1598
01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:17,739
interesting to talk about what do we do

1599
01:12:21,870 --> 01:12:20,350
about it that stand there there are some

1600
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:21,880
things going on in Hollywood right now

1601
01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:23,920
that are probably going to be that are

1602
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:25,960
probably also being done across the

1603
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:28,000
country and and where we're going I mean

1604
01:12:31,770 --> 01:12:29,770
the first response we're going to see

1605
01:12:33,930 --> 01:12:31,780
from a lot of this is a lot more female

1606
01:12:35,550 --> 01:12:33,940
executives in Hollywood a lot of these

1607
01:12:37,229 --> 01:12:35,560
guys that have lost their jobs are going

1608
01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:37,239
to be replaced by women I would imagine

1609
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:39,040
and they're going to have a different

1610
01:12:41,770 --> 01:12:40,130
way of looking at this

1611
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:41,780
kind of behavior but I'd also think

1612
01:12:45,370 --> 01:12:43,489
we're getting close to a zero tolerance

1613
01:12:47,740 --> 01:12:45,380
on some of this this is these are some

1614
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:47,750
of the things I have heard that are

1615
01:12:53,470 --> 01:12:50,330
going on I mean first of all there's

1616
01:12:56,350 --> 01:12:53,480
just no one may allure female probably

1617
01:12:58,540 --> 01:12:56,360
but definitely not female who is being

1618
01:12:59,410 --> 01:12:58,550
sent up to some male executives hotel

1619
01:13:01,209 --> 01:12:59,420
suite alone

1620
01:13:03,189 --> 01:13:01,219
I mean that's just not happening I mean

1621
01:13:05,860 --> 01:13:03,199
I think you're just not gonna see that

1622
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:05,870
happening and it's it's it's debt

1623
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:08,480
behavior is pretty much gone if you had

1624
01:13:13,060 --> 01:13:10,250
to go to somebody's hotel suite you'd go

1625
01:13:18,820 --> 01:13:13,070
with someone else and you usually don't

1626
01:13:21,070 --> 01:13:18,830
do that also even in meetings you need

1627
01:13:24,910 --> 01:13:21,080
someone else in the room if there's a

1628
01:13:27,100 --> 01:13:24,920
male executive meeting with a female

1629
01:13:27,370 --> 01:13:27,110
employee then somebody else is in the

1630
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:27,380
room

1631
01:13:33,189 --> 01:13:29,600
there's no closed doors in that kind of

1632
01:13:34,750 --> 01:13:33,199
situation I heard that at Warner

1633
01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:34,760
Brothers there's even some kind of edict

1634
01:13:39,879 --> 01:13:38,239
about elevator rides where you know if

1635
01:13:42,820 --> 01:13:39,889
the woman's on the elevator alone a man

1636
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:42,830
doesn't get on and to be with just her

1637
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:45,920
that's what I heard anyway so I think

1638
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,050
you know we're it's all about a code of

1639
01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:50,239
conduct now we're talking about a code

1640
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:52,880
of conduct and frankly it's probably

1641
01:13:56,860 --> 01:13:55,250
time I mean if you listen to the

1642
01:13:59,560 --> 01:13:56,870
testimony of the women who have come

1643
01:14:02,080 --> 01:13:59,570
forward it it's something that they've

1644
01:14:04,689 --> 01:14:02,090
had that they all know was going on for

1645
01:14:06,700 --> 01:14:04,699
a long long time and they've all had to

1646
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:06,710
sort of put up with it and now they're

1647
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:08,690
proudly not putting up with it and I say

1648
01:14:12,580 --> 01:14:10,370
more power to him why should you have to

1649
01:14:16,890 --> 01:14:12,590
put up with that kind of nonsense there

1650
01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:16,900
was another thing that you used to go on

1651
01:14:25,090 --> 01:14:21,400
quite quite actively on the Sunset Strip

1652
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:25,100
in its heyday in in the mid 80s there

1653
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:28,370
was this joke this running thing that's

1654
01:14:34,030 --> 01:14:30,650
running commentary that was all over the

1655
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:34,040
strip and that was okay like some band

1656
01:14:42,310 --> 01:14:39,770
right had some some notice coming

1657
01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:42,320
towards them right possibility of a

1658
01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:44,510
record deal or this or that a management

1659
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:47,360
company and the joke was this man you

1660
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:50,239
know okay time for a band meeting okay

1661
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:52,130
which one of this is going to take one

1662
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:53,570
for the team

1663
01:14:58,060 --> 01:14:57,050
oh man you know and it was and I'm being

1664
01:15:00,970 --> 01:14:58,070
serious here

1665
01:15:03,580 --> 01:15:00,980
now well you know these times change I

1666
01:15:05,050 --> 01:15:03,590
know we students change well and back to

1667
01:15:08,740 --> 01:15:05,060
my point you know it's like the casting

1668
01:15:10,510 --> 01:15:08,750
couch right yeah and and this was a calm

1669
01:15:12,939 --> 01:15:10,520
nobody did anything about it nobody

1670
01:15:16,089 --> 01:15:12,949
protested nobody get stood up nobody

1671
01:15:17,770 --> 01:15:16,099
no-nobody wanted to stay employed they

1672
01:15:19,330 --> 01:15:17,780
got it you know you got to do the right

1673
01:15:22,089 --> 01:15:19,340
thing you don't want to be known as the

1674
01:15:25,540 --> 01:15:22,099
band that you know or the guy it was

1675
01:15:29,020 --> 01:15:25,550
just a weird atmosphere that was going

1676
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:29,030
around and this was not a big secret you

1677
01:15:34,089 --> 01:15:31,760
know there's no but you know we we've

1678
01:15:37,649 --> 01:15:34,099
lived in a time of profound change in

1679
01:15:41,649 --> 01:15:37,659
our country and and and it's not ending

1680
01:15:43,660 --> 01:15:41,659
yeah I remember you know in in the 80s I

1681
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:43,670
was a director on a show called eye on

1682
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:46,130
LA and I remember one of the stories

1683
01:15:49,740 --> 01:15:48,530
they sent me down to cover was how seedy

1684
01:15:52,899 --> 01:15:49,750
and tawdry

1685
01:15:54,910 --> 01:15:52,909
the the Hollywood downtown Hollywood was

1686
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:54,920
really Sunset Boulevard and Hollywood

1687
01:15:59,770 --> 01:15:57,110
Boulevard where literally there were

1688
01:16:02,470 --> 01:15:59,780
like hundreds of colorfully attired

1689
01:16:05,109 --> 01:16:02,480
hookers working every night yep

1690
01:16:08,109 --> 01:16:05,119
well we don't do that anymore you know

1691
01:16:11,609 --> 01:16:08,119
we we cleaned up Hollywood you know and

1692
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:11,619
and we're gonna have to clean up the

1693
01:16:16,660 --> 01:16:14,090
product part of Hollywood a little

1694
01:16:20,859 --> 01:16:16,670
better now too and and that's forward

1695
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:20,869
progress and I mean it's complicated I

1696
01:16:26,109 --> 01:16:23,090
don't know everything about it I'm no

1697
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:26,119
expert these are just mostly opinions

1698
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:29,360
that I've got but I it's clear to me

1699
01:16:36,010 --> 01:16:33,170
that a lot of intelligent decent people

1700
01:16:38,589 --> 01:16:36,020
in town are trying to grapple with this

1701
01:16:41,260 --> 01:16:38,599
issue and and it'll probably be a better

1702
01:16:44,050 --> 01:16:41,270
town as a consequence with the JFK

1703
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:44,060
document dump from a couple of weeks ago

1704
01:16:50,140 --> 01:16:47,449
there were a couple of items in there

1705
01:16:51,939 --> 01:16:50,150
that that referred to exactly what we're

1706
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:51,949
talking about here it's very strange

1707
01:17:00,100 --> 01:16:57,290
that it was there but that JFK was part

1708
01:17:02,140 --> 01:17:00,110
of some of these Hollywood shindigs he

1709
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:02,150
not only part I mean I'm under no

1710
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:05,840
obligation to hide this story anymore so

1711
01:17:12,130 --> 01:17:09,890
I'll tell you a story about JFK that

1712
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:12,140
that I was told by someone who was at

1713
01:17:16,690 --> 01:17:15,770
the party obviously but the story goes

1714
01:17:19,780 --> 01:17:16,700
like this

1715
01:17:23,170 --> 01:17:19,790
in 1960 in the summer when the Democrats

1716
01:17:27,010 --> 01:17:23,180
nominated JFK he ended up at a party at

1717
01:17:29,110 --> 01:17:27,020
Peter Lawford's house he'd just been

1718
01:17:32,530 --> 01:17:29,120
nominated to be President he was there

1719
01:17:33,730 --> 01:17:32,540
with Marilyn Monroe which is 1960 so

1720
01:17:36,430 --> 01:17:33,740
when the people tell you they didn't

1721
01:17:41,050 --> 01:17:36,440
hook up until 62 that's not true

1722
01:17:44,770 --> 01:17:41,060
they hooked up in 1960 and you know they

1723
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:44,780
were obviously a couple at that I'm not

1724
01:17:52,330 --> 01:17:46,730
a couple but they were having a

1725
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:52,340
encounter at that time and JFK was God

1726
01:17:56,830 --> 01:17:54,770
came back after that and had been

1727
01:18:00,640 --> 01:17:56,840
drinking and literally was in the middle

1728
01:18:02,860 --> 01:18:00,650
of PCH saying I'm going to be the effing

1729
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:02,870
president of the United States in an

1730
01:18:07,540 --> 01:18:05,450
inebriated state and those people in the

1731
01:18:09,420 --> 01:18:07,550
party had to go pull him off PCH that's

1732
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:09,430
the kind of parties that were going on

1733
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:13,250
back then so and that's referred to that

1734
01:18:18,610 --> 01:18:16,010
kind of stuff is what J Edgar Hoover was

1735
01:18:20,710 --> 01:18:18,620
looking through in those documents and

1736
01:18:23,470 --> 01:18:20,720
and I can't remember there's one of them

1737
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:23,480
it's a 1960 FBI memo that describes

1738
01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:26,480
those sex parties that involve JFK and

1739
01:18:32,440 --> 01:18:29,840
Lawford and Sinatra and Davis and they

1740
01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:32,450
were what you know they the memo that I

1741
01:18:36,820 --> 01:18:35,120
saw was sort of speculating whether they

1742
01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:36,830
were true or not I believe they are true

1743
01:18:42,130 --> 01:18:39,280
or were true well and then you have

1744
01:18:44,710 --> 01:18:42,140
again back back to Hollywood

1745
01:18:48,130 --> 01:18:44,720
you know the Playboy Mansion and Hefner

1746
01:18:50,910 --> 01:18:48,140
and and the parties in Toluca Lake and

1747
01:18:54,820 --> 01:18:50,920
and the Hollywood Hills and Brentwood

1748
01:18:56,710 --> 01:18:54,830
was it was a way of life right it was

1749
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:56,720
just it was a way of life and I don't

1750
01:19:00,460 --> 01:18:58,880
think yeah it was but I will tell you

1751
01:19:02,290 --> 01:19:00,470
this I have a good friend a very good

1752
01:19:05,620 --> 01:19:02,300
friend I'm not gonna give her name but

1753
01:19:07,180 --> 01:19:05,630
she was a young woman a very attractive

1754
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:07,190
young woman in the day and she's still

1755
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:08,570
an attractive woman but she was an

1756
01:19:12,820 --> 01:19:10,250
attractive super young woman and she was

1757
01:19:16,030 --> 01:19:12,830
invited to these parties at Hefner's

1758
01:19:16,300 --> 01:19:16,040
Playboy Mansion and from her point of

1759
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:16,310
view

1760
01:19:19,180 --> 01:19:18,170
she was always treated very well and

1761
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:19,190
respectfully she

1762
01:19:24,250 --> 01:19:21,650
said she you know there was nothing

1763
01:19:25,620 --> 01:19:24,260
untoward were as far as she was

1764
01:19:30,430 --> 01:19:25,630
concerned so it's interesting everybody

1765
01:19:31,420 --> 01:19:30,440
has these different experiences and you

1766
01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:31,430
know we're trying to piece together

1767
01:19:36,490 --> 01:19:33,920
policy out of experience and it's all

1768
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:36,500
very you know challenging do you think

1769
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:39,920
the media is handling this Hollywood sex

1770
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:44,210
scandal appropriately not necessarily

1771
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:47,210
but but I don't know what the solution

1772
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:50,930
is these are not easy I mean because

1773
01:19:57,250 --> 01:19:54,050
it's about sex it's hard to write it in

1774
01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:57,260
a way that isn't somewhat titillating I

1775
01:20:02,709 --> 01:19:59,600
mean to read the Harvey I mean how many

1776
01:20:04,689 --> 01:20:02,719
people at the office you know we may not

1777
01:20:06,580 --> 01:20:04,699
talk about television series that we all

1778
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:06,590
watched last night at the water cooler

1779
01:20:10,300 --> 01:20:08,960
but for the last month we've sure as

1780
01:20:12,220 --> 01:20:10,310
hell have been talking about Harvey

1781
01:20:17,580 --> 01:20:12,230
Weinstein's aberrant behavior at the

1782
01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:17,590
water cooler yeah so it's it's out there

1783
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:20,719
the media has done the best it could I

1784
01:20:25,660 --> 01:20:23,330
think with probably a few exceptions but

1785
01:20:28,900 --> 01:20:25,670
has done the best it could to try to

1786
01:20:33,070 --> 01:20:28,910
cover it in a way that is is isn't as

1787
01:20:35,380 --> 01:20:33,080
sexual as it it could be covered so I

1788
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:35,390
don't know I I hope for the best

1789
01:20:39,459 --> 01:20:36,890
I just hope for the best and then we

1790
01:20:42,340 --> 01:20:39,469
have I think all of us have lost sight

1791
01:20:44,380 --> 01:20:42,350
of one of the things that I think is

1792
01:20:48,130 --> 01:20:44,390
extraordinary right now Bryce is the

1793
01:20:50,290 --> 01:20:48,140
headlines every day somehow have managed

1794
01:20:52,420 --> 01:20:50,300
to top the headlines from the day before

1795
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:52,430
they're getting bigger and broader and

1796
01:20:56,290 --> 01:20:55,370
crazier and nuttier these headlines are

1797
01:20:58,900 --> 01:20:56,300
out of control

1798
01:21:00,790 --> 01:20:58,910
I have two thoughts about that that's

1799
01:21:02,590 --> 01:21:00,800
why it really worries me about North

1800
01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:02,600
Korea because we've had headlines about

1801
01:21:07,390 --> 01:21:04,880
things that I've never thought could

1802
01:21:09,310 --> 01:21:07,400
happen and that would be one of them

1803
01:21:11,709 --> 01:21:09,320
would you know a shooting war with

1804
01:21:15,580 --> 01:21:11,719
nuclear weapons would be something that

1805
01:21:17,290 --> 01:21:15,590
would be really bad and also the fact

1806
01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:17,300
that we're having these headlines as you

1807
01:21:21,970 --> 01:21:19,120
said that they're just coming at us

1808
01:21:23,410 --> 01:21:21,980
relentlessly that does give me some hope

1809
01:21:25,150 --> 01:21:23,420
that one of those headlines is going to

1810
01:21:28,209 --> 01:21:25,160
have something to do with UFO disclosure

1811
01:21:29,890 --> 01:21:28,219
because that's the ultimate big shocker

1812
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:29,900
headline that I've been thinking about

1813
01:21:33,069 --> 01:21:32,330
for years and I think we may be

1814
01:21:36,700 --> 01:21:33,079
approached

1815
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:36,710
a time where ironically the the amount

1816
01:21:41,770 --> 01:21:39,170
of shocking news that we absorb on a

1817
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:41,780
nearly daily basis will probably render

1818
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:45,050
UFO disclosure just another story of the

1819
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:47,840
moment yeah it takes the shock value out

1820
01:21:51,939 --> 01:21:49,610
of it and it could all be done by design

1821
01:21:56,919 --> 01:21:51,949
I'm even right I've written about this

1822
01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:56,929
quite a bit but the before we go before

1823
01:22:02,200 --> 01:21:59,840
we head to this break what this is what

1824
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:02,210
is is really nuts here we're talking

1825
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:05,690
about today Harvey Weinstein and and

1826
01:22:13,419 --> 01:22:10,610
Kevin Spacey and and we just just two

1827
01:22:16,990 --> 01:22:13,429
months ago it was Bill O'Reilly and

1828
01:22:19,990 --> 01:22:17,000
Roger Ailes you know how is that

1829
01:22:22,060 --> 01:22:20,000
possible that that could be topped is

1830
01:22:24,069 --> 01:22:22,070
what I'm saying and before that it was

1831
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:24,079
Bill Cosby you know we're talking about

1832
01:22:30,790 --> 01:22:28,250
some very big names here and somehow we

1833
01:22:32,890 --> 01:22:30,800
have forgotten about Bill O'Reilly

1834
01:22:34,810 --> 01:22:32,900
hundred million dollars worth of cash

1835
01:22:37,870 --> 01:22:34,820
that he was you know and that's that's

1836
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:37,880
nuts but well and he paid one woman

1837
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:40,010
thirty two million dollars so you

1838
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:41,840
generally don't give someone thirty two

1839
01:22:47,319 --> 01:22:45,110
million dollars for doing nothing it's

1840
01:22:49,060 --> 01:22:47,329
it's crazy and how do we you know these

1841
01:22:51,879 --> 01:22:49,070
headlines keep getting bigger and bigger

1842
01:22:53,709 --> 01:22:51,889
every single day and well I you know one

1843
01:22:55,930 --> 01:22:53,719
thing that we can say for sure though is

1844
01:23:00,010 --> 01:22:55,940
part of the reason is we live in a world

1845
01:23:03,220 --> 01:23:00,020
where with the social media and the the

1846
01:23:05,770 --> 01:23:03,230
technology and the coverage of things

1847
01:23:07,359 --> 01:23:05,780
are harder for any anybody who's a bad

1848
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:07,369
actor it's harder to sweep anything

1849
01:23:13,379 --> 01:23:10,159
under the rug so while it's tempting to

1850
01:23:16,089 --> 01:23:13,389
pile on the media part of this

1851
01:23:20,339 --> 01:23:16,099
saturation with the media is also a good

1852
01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:20,349
thing in that you know things that are

1853
01:23:26,379 --> 01:23:24,710
bad and need to be taken care of it's

1854
01:23:31,270 --> 01:23:26,389
they're being taken care of in their own

1855
01:23:33,549 --> 01:23:31,280
weird way why do you think the with

1856
01:23:35,470 --> 01:23:33,559
these headlines getting bigger and

1857
01:23:38,470 --> 01:23:35,480
bigger and bigger you think it's taking

1858
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:38,480
us off of the prize you know the the

1859
01:23:45,790 --> 01:23:42,050
citizenry us is it taking our eyes off

1860
01:23:46,540 --> 01:23:45,800
of what is important and it is allowing

1861
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:46,550
the man

1862
01:23:52,419 --> 01:23:49,250
and in the background to run amok

1863
01:23:54,879 --> 01:23:52,429
because we are too busy fighting amongst

1864
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:54,889
ourselves and discussing Kevin Spacey

1865
01:23:58,629 --> 01:23:57,290
and Harvey Weinstein well there's

1866
01:24:00,910 --> 01:23:58,639
there's I mean certainly some people

1867
01:24:03,310 --> 01:24:00,920
think that and there's a case that could

1868
01:24:05,260 --> 01:24:03,320
be made for that but but I would I I

1869
01:24:08,770 --> 01:24:05,270
think if you take the long historical

1870
01:24:10,540 --> 01:24:08,780
view you'd say people have always been

1871
01:24:12,729 --> 01:24:10,550
getting distracted by one thing or

1872
01:24:15,010 --> 01:24:12,739
another I mean it's not it's not unique

1873
01:24:17,919 --> 01:24:15,020
to our time what's unique to our time is

1874
01:24:20,049 --> 01:24:17,929
our ability to distract ourselves with

1875
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:20,059
something new every five seconds and

1876
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:22,730
have it Carine around the world in real

1877
01:24:29,260 --> 01:24:25,760
time that's all new but in terms of

1878
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:29,270
people not getting involved in the

1879
01:24:32,799 --> 01:24:30,650
important issues of the day because

1880
01:24:34,270 --> 01:24:32,809
they're too worried about crazy stuff

1881
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:34,280
that's unimportant well they've been

1882
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:37,010
doing that forever too so you know they

1883
01:24:43,569 --> 01:24:39,050
have and you just brought up North Korea

1884
01:24:46,839 --> 01:24:43,579
right yeah that is if there is anything

1885
01:24:48,669 --> 01:24:46,849
that can take North Korea off of the

1886
01:24:49,629 --> 01:24:48,679
headlines I mean how is that even

1887
01:24:52,060 --> 01:24:49,639
possible

1888
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:52,070
but we've had the Las Vegas shooting or

1889
01:24:57,459 --> 01:24:54,650
the shooting this weekend and in Texas

1890
01:24:59,859 --> 01:24:57,469
so tragedy hurricanes and you know

1891
01:25:03,819 --> 01:24:59,869
natural disasters and everything has

1892
01:25:06,339 --> 01:25:03,829
been covering up the the crazy crazy

1893
01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:06,349
news of the day before like for instance

1894
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:08,960
a hydrogen bombs being tested in North

1895
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:12,400
Korea yeah I mean all of that is

1896
01:25:17,109 --> 01:25:14,960
extremely troubling and by the way I

1897
01:25:18,580 --> 01:25:17,119
recalled it earlier in your program

1898
01:25:20,350 --> 01:25:18,590
you're talking about if only certain

1899
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:20,360
things might happened and we wouldn't be

1900
01:25:24,850 --> 01:25:22,250
worried about well the thing that could

1901
01:25:27,580 --> 01:25:24,860
happen that that could get people on the

1902
01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:27,590
planet at least talking like they're on

1903
01:25:31,810 --> 01:25:29,360
the same side might be this UFO

1904
01:25:34,209 --> 01:25:31,820
disclosure it's it's it's probably one

1905
01:25:37,049 --> 01:25:34,219
of the few really positives of UFO

1906
01:25:39,609 --> 01:25:37,059
disclosure that it allows us to see our

1907
01:25:44,140 --> 01:25:39,619
humanity and our common humanity more

1908
01:25:46,390 --> 01:25:44,150
than it allows us to see the the things

1909
01:25:47,740 --> 01:25:46,400
that divide us so I would I would hope

1910
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:47,750
that that would be a good thing for us

1911
01:25:50,109 --> 01:25:49,250
in the future we'll pick that up right

1912
01:25:52,299 --> 01:25:50,119
after the break

1913
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our guest tonight Bryce Abel I'm your

1914
01:25:58,720 --> 01:25:54,409
host Jimmy church this is fade to black

1915
01:26:00,009 --> 01:25:58,730
and I'm wondering why hold on my music

1916
01:26:02,290 --> 01:26:00,019
isn't cued up

1917
01:26:05,529 --> 01:26:02,300
you gotta love this Bryce just gotta

1918
01:26:06,700 --> 01:26:05,539
look I'm so sorry it's called live radio

1919
01:26:10,989 --> 01:26:06,710
that's what it's called

1920
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:10,999
Marcus it's so damn exciting more with

1921
01:26:16,450 --> 01:26:12,800
Bryce right after this short break you

1922
01:26:18,069 --> 01:26:16,460
could follow Bryce a prize able a cyber

1923
01:26:19,450 --> 01:26:18,079
cyber rice

1924
01:26:29,390 --> 01:26:19,460
this is fade to black we'll be right

1925
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[Music]

1926
01:26:46,450 --> 01:26:42,420
way out here we listen to Jimmy Church

1927
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you're listening to fade to black always

1928
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on the edge of the hottest alternative

1929
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talk chilly church with fade to black

1930
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1931
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1932
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more than our fair share this is Jimmy

1933
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1934
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1953
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1969
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1972
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1973
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unfortunately I can't tell you all about

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1981
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to ancient life oil com that's ancient

1982
01:29:22,850 --> 01:29:22,410
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1983
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to black

1984
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:25,170
with Jimmy Church on the game change in

1985
01:29:32,030 --> 01:29:29,970
network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

1986
01:29:34,970 --> 01:29:32,040
listening to Jimmy Church this is a

1987
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:34,980
revolution the revolution will not be

1988
01:29:43,550 --> 01:29:38,810
televised the revolution is on radio

1989
01:29:43,560 --> 01:30:21,560
[Music]

1990
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:24,060
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

1991
01:30:29,570 --> 01:30:26,170
your signatures follow me on twitter @jj

1992
01:30:33,510 --> 01:30:29,580
right you can follow Bryce at Bryce Abel

1993
01:30:35,190 --> 01:30:33,520
think it's cyber blaze is is that what

1994
01:30:39,570 --> 01:30:35,200
it is bright cyber blaze

1995
01:30:41,220 --> 01:30:39,580
what are we back on yeah we're back on

1996
01:30:42,900 --> 01:30:41,230
okay well do you know what cyberblades

1997
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:42,910
it's interesting I was walking with a

1998
01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:44,110
friend once and we were talking about

1999
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:47,110
how Dick Cavett was the perfect guy that

2000
01:30:54,300 --> 01:30:48,850
could come up with an anagram on the

2001
01:30:56,010 --> 01:30:54,310
spot he famously I mean he could just

2002
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:56,020
you could give him a long thing and he'd

2003
01:31:00,450 --> 01:30:57,610
anagram it's my friend goes well you

2004
01:31:02,250 --> 01:31:00,460
know your name is cyber blaze and I'd

2005
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:02,260
never thought of that before which was

2006
01:31:06,090 --> 01:31:04,090
pretty interesting so that's why I use

2007
01:31:08,460 --> 01:31:06,100
cyber blaze at Bryce table because it's

2008
01:31:10,620 --> 01:31:08,470
my anagram and an anagram is a terrible

2009
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:10,630
thing to waste as well is that really an

2010
01:31:17,190 --> 01:31:13,690
anagram yeah I mean Bryce is cyber and

2011
01:31:20,690 --> 01:31:17,200
you know there's the Z the seasons yeah

2012
01:31:26,070 --> 01:31:20,700
I'm like where the Z duh so it's like

2013
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:26,080
and here's the funny thing about my ice

2014
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:28,890
right now I'm getting a lot of feedback

2015
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:35,290
you're okay here I'm okay all right no

2016
01:31:44,670 --> 01:31:36,250
I've lost you

2017
01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:44,680
oh that was interesting okay all right

2018
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:46,630
I'm gonna do a hard reset just like this

2019
01:31:54,570 --> 01:31:51,850
boom done done I'll do a hard reset here

2020
01:31:55,700 --> 01:31:54,580
we'll see we'll see if we get Bryce back

2021
01:31:58,260 --> 01:31:55,710
it's weird

2022
01:32:00,330 --> 01:31:58,270
all right yeah are there are we back

2023
01:32:02,190 --> 01:32:00,340
yeah we're back you're good okay

2024
01:32:06,770 --> 01:32:02,200
I love live radio I mean come on that's

2025
01:32:14,790 --> 01:32:10,590
Bryce you know I'm still getting your

2026
01:32:17,460 --> 01:32:14,800
ads in my ear here so that's what you're

2027
01:32:19,530 --> 01:32:17,470
trippin on oh yeah okay hold on for a

2028
01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:19,540
second see nobody else can hear that but

2029
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:22,030
you yeah and that's why you're trippin

2030
01:32:29,430 --> 01:32:24,490
okay how's that that's so much better

2031
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:29,440
boy okay so yes cyber blaze that just to

2032
01:32:33,480 --> 01:32:31,210
finish that story what's funny about it

2033
01:32:34,530 --> 01:32:33,490
is so I would I can die went oh I got

2034
01:32:36,930 --> 01:32:34,540
the great new handle

2035
01:32:38,730 --> 01:32:36,940
be on Twitter you know I'm at Bryce Abel

2036
01:32:42,420 --> 01:32:38,740
but I'll call myself cyberblades it'll

2037
01:32:45,330 --> 01:32:42,430
be funny and my son informed me that to

2038
01:32:47,820 --> 01:32:45,340
cyber blaze means to smoke pot with

2039
01:32:49,530 --> 01:32:47,830
somebody while you're on the internet

2040
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:49,540
together oh that you're not in the same

2041
01:32:52,440 --> 01:32:50,770
room but you're each getting high

2042
01:32:54,300 --> 01:32:52,450
together and I thought well that kind of

2043
01:32:57,150 --> 01:32:54,310
takes some of the edge off the cyber

2044
01:32:59,190 --> 01:32:57,160
blaze excitement but I liked it so much

2045
01:33:01,140 --> 01:32:59,200
I've kept it I figured you know what the

2046
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:01,150
heck well I have to ask have you cyber

2047
01:33:04,950 --> 01:33:02,050
blazed

2048
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:04,960
I haven't actually I'm not opposed to it

2049
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:07,810
I it's not a moral prescription that I

2050
01:33:11,940 --> 01:33:10,090
would follow against it but I just

2051
01:33:14,910 --> 01:33:11,950
didn't realize that that was a thing I

2052
01:33:16,860 --> 01:33:14,920
mean I'm not sure even that it should be

2053
01:33:18,180 --> 01:33:16,870
a thing I mean if you're if you're gonna

2054
01:33:20,910 --> 01:33:18,190
get high to be nice to get high with

2055
01:33:22,740 --> 01:33:20,920
somebody instead of you know

2056
01:33:26,430 --> 01:33:22,750
long-distance but who knows I mean who's

2057
01:33:28,860 --> 01:33:26,440
the judge see now you're sounding old in

2058
01:33:30,750 --> 01:33:28,870
fact everyone call me and we'll all

2059
01:33:32,010 --> 01:33:30,760
cyber blaze you know what they're doing

2060
01:33:35,190 --> 01:33:32,020
right now and Twitter

2061
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:35,200
I can check right now everybody's yeah

2062
01:33:40,380 --> 01:33:37,810
man let cyberblades okay well you know

2063
01:33:42,060 --> 01:33:40,390
what let that be our contribution if

2064
01:33:45,420 --> 01:33:42,070
we've kicked that kick started that

2065
01:33:48,810 --> 01:33:45,430
every time we say cyber blaze everybody

2066
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:48,820
take a pull off the bond there'll be

2067
01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:52,690
some periscope live tweets okay now

2068
01:33:59,940 --> 01:33:55,840
let's go back for a second yeah back to

2069
01:34:02,310 --> 01:33:59,950
the disclosure aspect of this what you

2070
01:34:05,700 --> 01:34:02,320
just suggested as we all know Ronald

2071
01:34:08,150 --> 01:34:05,710
Reagan with United Nations got right up

2072
01:34:11,190 --> 01:34:08,160
there and said those exact things

2073
01:34:14,010 --> 01:34:11,200
absolutely D and he wasn't wrong do you

2074
01:34:17,790 --> 01:34:14,020
believe that he believed in what he was

2075
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:17,800
saying oh I do Ronald Reagan well first

2076
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:20,170
of all we could do an entire show about

2077
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:22,570
the relationship between US presidents

2078
01:34:26,220 --> 01:34:24,610
and UFOs but that's not why we're here

2079
01:34:28,260 --> 01:34:26,230
tonight but I will but we brought up

2080
01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:28,270
Reagan let's talk about him Reagan had a

2081
01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:31,150
couple of UFO sightings one of them in a

2082
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:33,040
in a small private plane and he

2083
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:35,110
literally this has something great about

2084
01:34:39,150 --> 01:34:37,690
Reagan I mean god bless him instead of

2085
01:34:41,940 --> 01:34:39,160
saying get the hell out of here there's

2086
01:34:44,820 --> 01:34:41,950
a UFO he instructed his pilot to chase

2087
01:34:48,700 --> 01:34:44,830
it which was kind of interesting and he

2088
01:34:51,729 --> 01:34:48,710
he and Nancy saw a major

2089
01:34:54,580 --> 01:34:51,739
UFO once I believe on PCH that's right

2090
01:34:56,140 --> 01:34:54,590
and and he went to a party that night he

2091
01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:56,150
was talking about it and one of his

2092
01:35:00,069 --> 01:34:58,010
advisers came to him and said sir why

2093
01:35:01,839 --> 01:35:00,079
don't we just downplayed this let's not

2094
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:01,849
let's not be talking about this right

2095
01:35:09,779 --> 01:35:05,570
now but Reagan definitely had seen UFOs

2096
01:35:13,299 --> 01:35:09,789
twice and at you know and and close-up

2097
01:35:15,759 --> 01:35:13,309
particularly with the light plane and he

2098
01:35:17,979 --> 01:35:15,769
definitely believed in in fact he's

2099
01:35:20,259 --> 01:35:17,989
famous for having said to Steven

2100
01:35:23,410 --> 01:35:20,269
Spielberg get the et screening in the

2101
01:35:24,970 --> 01:35:23,420
White House you know there aren't you

2102
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,980
know there's only a couple of people and

2103
01:35:28,089 --> 01:35:26,960
there's only two people in this room who

2104
01:35:31,089 --> 01:35:28,099
know how true this is

2105
01:35:36,279 --> 01:35:31,099
meaning him and Spielberg so yeah Reagan

2106
01:35:40,419 --> 01:35:36,289
Reagan totally got that that we were

2107
01:35:42,310 --> 01:35:40,429
being visited and he thought that it

2108
01:35:44,890 --> 01:35:42,320
would be a good thing if we all sort of

2109
01:35:47,490 --> 01:35:44,900
started to act like it there's been a

2110
01:35:49,660 --> 01:35:47,500
lot of a drip drip drip of disclosure

2111
01:35:51,939 --> 01:35:49,670
especially over the last couple of years

2112
01:35:54,490 --> 01:35:51,949
it's been pretty obvious this covery of

2113
01:35:57,779 --> 01:35:54,500
exoplanets and fast radio bursts and

2114
01:36:01,120 --> 01:35:57,789
life out there and life here and and

2115
01:36:03,270 --> 01:36:01,130
confirming you know contact and and or

2116
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:03,280
attempting to confirm contact this is

2117
01:36:08,859 --> 01:36:06,110
it's never been you know a weekly thing

2118
01:36:10,839 --> 01:36:08,869
like it is now of course we don't need

2119
01:36:13,209 --> 01:36:10,849
to bring up Jimmy Kimmel and presidents

2120
01:36:14,620 --> 01:36:13,219
and all of that but it has happened well

2121
01:36:16,180 --> 01:36:14,630
I mean we should bring it up but I'll

2122
01:36:18,689 --> 01:36:16,190
tell you one thing here's the

2123
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:18,699
distinction I I continue to draw I

2124
01:36:24,879 --> 01:36:22,610
believe the evidence is strong if not

2125
01:36:27,009 --> 01:36:24,889
overwhelming that at least some of the

2126
01:36:29,950 --> 01:36:27,019
things flying around in our skies are

2127
01:36:32,620 --> 01:36:29,960
from someplace that isn't here and

2128
01:36:34,979 --> 01:36:32,630
they're being piloted by somebody that

2129
01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:34,989
isn't us that much I'm pretty sure of

2130
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:39,199
and I think that what's odd about these

2131
01:36:42,970 --> 01:36:40,730
sort of the you talking about the drip

2132
01:36:45,580 --> 01:36:42,980
drip drip but it's a drip drip drip of

2133
01:36:47,410 --> 01:36:45,590
people talking about oh look at these

2134
01:36:49,569 --> 01:36:47,420
there's a new planet maybe there's life

2135
01:36:51,879 --> 01:36:49,579
out there or looking you know SETI

2136
01:36:54,669 --> 01:36:51,889
looking for radio signals and it just

2137
01:36:57,959 --> 01:36:54,679
strikes me is the greatest hypocrisy we

2138
01:37:01,389 --> 01:36:57,969
have all this profound evidence about

2139
01:37:05,049 --> 01:37:01,399
actual things happening here on earth

2140
01:37:08,139 --> 01:37:05,059
for a long long time and we don't talk

2141
01:37:10,719 --> 01:37:08,149
about that but it's okay to talk to look

2142
01:37:12,609 --> 01:37:10,729
for radio signals it's okay to speculate

2143
01:37:15,339 --> 01:37:12,619
that there might be a microbe on Mars

2144
01:37:17,859 --> 01:37:15,349
but we don't talk about the fact that

2145
01:37:21,429 --> 01:37:17,869
there are machines flying around in our

2146
01:37:24,819 --> 01:37:21,439
skies that aren't ours I mean how crazy

2147
01:37:28,119 --> 01:37:24,829
is that if if nothing else we need to

2148
01:37:30,279 --> 01:37:28,129
restore some sanity to this academic

2149
01:37:33,009 --> 01:37:30,289
pursuit of trying to understand these

2150
01:37:34,929 --> 01:37:33,019
devices they're not ours they're not the

2151
01:37:36,489 --> 01:37:34,939
Russians they're not that Chinese and

2152
01:37:38,679 --> 01:37:36,499
they're not ours

2153
01:37:40,989 --> 01:37:38,689
so they belong to somebody and they've

2154
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:40,999
been here for a very long time

2155
01:37:45,580 --> 01:37:43,129
perhaps that many thousands of years and

2156
01:37:48,429 --> 01:37:45,590
they've been here in greater numbers in

2157
01:37:53,159 --> 01:37:48,439
the last 70 years and I think we should

2158
01:37:56,949 --> 01:37:53,169
talk about it why with when I went to

2159
01:38:01,029 --> 01:37:56,959
broadcast school I had brought up

2160
01:38:02,799 --> 01:38:01,039
probably somebody that you know that one

2161
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:02,809
of the teachers there who worked at CNN

2162
01:38:09,969 --> 01:38:06,530
right in in Hollywood so we're doing

2163
01:38:11,619 --> 01:38:09,979
we're creating doughnuts right for

2164
01:38:14,139 --> 01:38:11,629
everybody out there that's a that's a

2165
01:38:16,239 --> 01:38:14,149
news package that you put together and

2166
01:38:19,209 --> 01:38:16,249
you you speak in the middle of it as a

2167
01:38:21,189 --> 01:38:19,219
reporter and then you have your your

2168
01:38:23,049 --> 01:38:21,199
video that runs on both sides of anyway

2169
01:38:26,109 --> 01:38:23,059
so we're doing that and I and I said to

2170
01:38:27,939 --> 01:38:26,119
myself oh uh we were out there doing man

2171
01:38:30,699 --> 01:38:27,949
on the street stuff you know whatever

2172
01:38:34,299 --> 01:38:30,709
and I said hey you know what if you know

2173
01:38:37,719 --> 01:38:34,309
me yeah what if I had a UFOs story you

2174
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:37,729
know what you know could I go to would

2175
01:38:41,679 --> 01:38:39,530
you if you had a news would you go to

2176
01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:41,689
your news director and say he goes hey

2177
01:38:49,209 --> 01:38:47,360
man we don't do UFO no nobody you know

2178
01:38:53,379 --> 01:38:49,219
if you know I kept saying but what up

2179
01:38:58,989 --> 01:38:53,389
dude no UFOs I'm telling you when I was

2180
01:39:00,459 --> 01:38:58,999
at CNN if I had had the if I had said to

2181
01:39:01,719 --> 01:39:00,469
somebody why don't we do a story about

2182
01:39:04,029 --> 01:39:01,729
UFOs

2183
01:39:06,540 --> 01:39:04,039
that would have been the end of my CNN

2184
01:39:10,209 --> 01:39:06,550
career right there I mean there's just

2185
01:39:12,699 --> 01:39:10,219
no willingness to talk about it now even

2186
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:12,709
at CNN though things did change when

2187
01:39:16,660 --> 01:39:14,570
Larry King started talking about him

2188
01:39:20,410 --> 01:39:16,670
right you know I was there before Larry

2189
01:39:22,540 --> 01:39:20,420
so back in the days when you didn't talk

2190
01:39:25,390 --> 01:39:22,550
about it increasingly we do talk about

2191
01:39:27,940 --> 01:39:25,400
it but we couch if you're if you believe

2192
01:39:29,890 --> 01:39:27,950
UFOs are real in here then you're a UFO

2193
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:29,900
buff well I'm not a buff I'm not a

2194
01:39:34,330 --> 01:39:32,090
hobbyist I'm a guy that's looking at the

2195
01:39:36,190 --> 01:39:34,340
facts and saying I can't make sense of

2196
01:39:38,110 --> 01:39:36,200
these facts with with ordinary

2197
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:38,120
explanations and I need to hear a little

2198
01:39:42,580 --> 01:39:40,130
bit more about what this all means and

2199
01:39:44,410 --> 01:39:42,590
given what we know about physics and the

2200
01:39:46,450 --> 01:39:44,420
size of the universe and the number of

2201
01:39:50,860 --> 01:39:46,460
planets and stars and all that out there

2202
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:50,870
I mean I got enough argument with Carl

2203
01:39:56,170 --> 01:39:54,170
Sagan once during my career because I

2204
01:39:59,470 --> 01:39:56,180
just challenged I'd interviewed him

2205
01:40:01,480 --> 01:39:59,480
about the the Saturn encounter and and

2206
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:01,490
we were in the parking lot and I said

2207
01:40:06,310 --> 01:40:03,770
you know I just understand you say that

2208
01:40:08,890 --> 01:40:06,320
the universe is teeming with life and in

2209
01:40:10,810 --> 01:40:08,900
fact you've been made fun of for saying

2210
01:40:13,060 --> 01:40:10,820
there's billions upon billions of

2211
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:13,070
planets so if the universe is teeming

2212
01:40:17,670 --> 01:40:14,810
with life there are billions and

2213
01:40:21,940 --> 01:40:17,680
billions of planets and you want us to

2214
01:40:22,900 --> 01:40:21,950
send out voyagers and and spacecraft to

2215
01:40:25,690 --> 01:40:22,910
explore the universe

2216
01:40:28,330 --> 01:40:25,700
why are you unable to accept the reality

2217
01:40:30,700 --> 01:40:28,340
or the possibility even that somebody

2218
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:30,710
else has come here to look at us and

2219
01:40:36,850 --> 01:40:33,770
he'll don't get that and he said he said

2220
01:40:39,820 --> 01:40:36,860
he just said that the extraordinary

2221
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:39,830
claims require extraordinary proof and

2222
01:40:47,620 --> 01:40:42,770
he hadn't seen the proof so I did get my

2223
01:40:49,780 --> 01:40:47,630
I did get a little bit of take my my

2224
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:49,790
vengeance later went in dark skies I

2225
01:40:55,150 --> 01:40:52,970
made Carl Sagan a character who had been

2226
01:40:57,310 --> 01:40:55,160
told the truth about UFOs in exchange

2227
01:40:59,560 --> 01:40:57,320
for him pooh-poohing them and being a

2228
01:41:02,920 --> 01:40:59,570
debunker to everybody else so that's how

2229
01:41:06,490 --> 01:41:02,930
I took my revenge has the past chairman

2230
01:41:09,220 --> 01:41:06,500
CEO of the television Academy seen

2231
01:41:13,060 --> 01:41:09,230
anything strange in the skies that he

2232
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:13,070
can't explain i I kind of wish I had

2233
01:41:18,100 --> 01:41:14,570
because it made it make a better story

2234
01:41:20,020 --> 01:41:18,110
but I haven't from time to time I've

2235
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:20,030
seen things but when you're looking in

2236
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:22,250
the sky and you go what's odd I wonder

2237
01:41:26,620 --> 01:41:24,890
what that is but none that would rise to

2238
01:41:27,850 --> 01:41:26,630
the level where I disco that's just

2239
01:41:31,210 --> 01:41:27,860
unexplainable however

2240
01:41:32,860 --> 01:41:31,220
I will say this I'm well you don't have

2241
01:41:35,470 --> 01:41:32,870
to have seen something you can just be

2242
01:41:37,390 --> 01:41:35,480
well-read you can look into it and you

2243
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:37,400
see the evidence the other thing that in

2244
01:41:43,540 --> 01:41:40,210
my life has been kind of intriguing is

2245
01:41:46,030 --> 01:41:43,550
I'm celebrating my 25th year since I

2246
01:41:48,310 --> 01:41:46,040
made a movie about UFOs 25 years ago I

2247
01:41:50,830 --> 01:41:48,320
made a movie called official denial for

2248
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:50,840
the sci-fi channel and and then followed

2249
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:53,840
that up with dark sky so people in my

2250
01:41:59,310 --> 01:41:56,210
life knew that I had an interest in the

2251
01:42:02,740 --> 01:41:59,320
material and for the last 25 years

2252
01:42:04,900 --> 01:42:02,750
people just out of nowhere say you know

2253
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:04,910
you're the guy that did that UFO series

2254
01:42:09,730 --> 01:42:06,730
and I'll say yeah and they go you know

2255
01:42:12,130 --> 01:42:09,740
I've never talked to anybody about this

2256
01:42:14,140 --> 01:42:12,140
but and then they proceeded to tell me a

2257
01:42:17,950 --> 01:42:14,150
story that'll make your hair stand on

2258
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:17,960
its end so these people these are people

2259
01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:21,530
who were told that keep quiet by their

2260
01:42:26,890 --> 01:42:24,110
family members or whatever and because

2261
01:42:28,780 --> 01:42:26,900
they'll be ridiculed and they they tell

2262
01:42:30,910 --> 01:42:28,790
me their stories because they figure I

2263
01:42:33,940 --> 01:42:30,920
won't laugh at them and I just think

2264
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:33,950
given that this is a true phenomenon

2265
01:42:38,380 --> 01:42:35,810
that we're living through right now how

2266
01:42:40,690 --> 01:42:38,390
silly is it that if people want to talk

2267
01:42:43,090 --> 01:42:40,700
about it they get ridiculed and how

2268
01:42:45,490 --> 01:42:43,100
silly is it that you know if I went to a

2269
01:42:47,440 --> 01:42:45,500
party and started talking about UFOs

2270
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:47,450
with just the average people I was

2271
01:42:50,230 --> 01:42:48,410
meeting at the party

2272
01:42:52,150 --> 01:42:50,240
you kind of get treated like the drunk

2273
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:52,160
uncle at the party you know people kind

2274
01:42:56,620 --> 01:42:54,050
of like oh there he goes again and

2275
01:42:58,960 --> 01:42:56,630
that's crazy this this is a real

2276
01:43:00,760 --> 01:42:58,970
phenomenon you know that is a mystery

2277
01:43:03,070 --> 01:43:00,770
that we're not quite sure what it all

2278
01:43:06,700 --> 01:43:03,080
means we don't have the facts yet Tom

2279
01:43:11,170 --> 01:43:06,710
DeLonge notwithstanding and and I think

2280
01:43:13,990 --> 01:43:11,180
it deserves more respect and it deserves

2281
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:14,000
more legitimacy from the people out

2282
01:43:19,180 --> 01:43:17,090
there who are academics and scientists

2283
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:19,190
and that is one thing by the way I'd say

2284
01:43:22,990 --> 01:43:20,930
that's good about what Tom DeLonge is

2285
01:43:26,710 --> 01:43:23,000
doing he's dragged some of these people

2286
01:43:29,740 --> 01:43:26,720
who are these scientific types out into

2287
01:43:33,130 --> 01:43:29,750
the light of day and and they're backing

2288
01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:33,140
us up on this there are and you've heard

2289
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:36,080
the same stories there are people out

2290
01:43:40,090 --> 01:43:38,090
there in our community when they talk

2291
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:40,100
about you and they talk about Spielberg

2292
01:43:43,650 --> 01:43:40,570
and

2293
01:43:47,730 --> 01:43:43,660
you two have been read in the - you're

2294
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:47,740
privy to information if you were read in

2295
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:50,080
I don't know if you were would you tell

2296
01:43:56,780 --> 01:43:53,410
us about it yeah I would I'll tell you

2297
01:44:02,760 --> 01:43:56,790
what that I I might have been read in

2298
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:02,770
what I mean you know I it's it's

2299
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:07,690
interesting this this as you know when

2300
01:44:12,450 --> 01:44:09,970
we launched dark skies we said that we

2301
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:12,460
had been approached by someone to try to

2302
01:44:17,460 --> 01:44:14,290
tell this story under the cover of

2303
01:44:19,140 --> 01:44:17,470
fiction to you know protect the innocent

2304
01:44:21,090 --> 01:44:19,150
and that was sort of how the store the

2305
01:44:22,740 --> 01:44:21,100
the series began and I won't go into

2306
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:22,750
that story but it will tell you that

2307
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:24,610
what happened during the production of

2308
01:44:28,890 --> 01:44:26,530
dark skies and you and I have talked

2309
01:44:30,690 --> 01:44:28,900
about this before so I won't belabor

2310
01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:30,700
your audience with with the whole

2311
01:44:36,690 --> 01:44:33,760
details but what happened is Brent

2312
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:36,700
Friedman my producing partner and

2313
01:44:44,010 --> 01:44:40,090
writing partner on dark skies and I the

2314
01:44:47,910 --> 01:44:44,020
dark skies party to launch the series

2315
01:44:52,170 --> 01:44:47,920
have been crashed by somebody who none

2316
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:52,180
of us knew and who said that he had been

2317
01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:55,600
a task to come to the party to open up

2318
01:44:59,940 --> 01:44:57,730
lines of communication with us because

2319
01:45:02,370 --> 01:44:59,950
they had seen the pilot now the pilot

2320
01:45:03,810 --> 01:45:02,380
haven't aired yet they had seen the

2321
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:03,820
pilot they thought we got a lot of

2322
01:45:07,620 --> 01:45:05,170
things right but we got some things

2323
01:45:09,300 --> 01:45:07,630
wrong and they wanted to talk to us well

2324
01:45:11,370 --> 01:45:09,310
that was interesting but I didn't have a

2325
01:45:13,980 --> 01:45:11,380
lot of time to talk to this guy there's

2326
01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:13,990
more to that story too I won't go into

2327
01:45:22,290 --> 01:45:17,440
all that but this guy said you need to

2328
01:45:24,150 --> 01:45:22,300
meet my bosses and Brent agreed to let

2329
01:45:26,370 --> 01:45:24,160
him come to the studio and these two

2330
01:45:29,940 --> 01:45:26,380
guys came to the studio who looked very

2331
01:45:31,950 --> 01:45:29,950
much like lean tough 30-something

2332
01:45:34,230 --> 01:45:31,960
military guys they said they were with

2333
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:34,240
naval intelligence and they proceeded

2334
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:36,880
for a couple of hours to basically brief

2335
01:45:44,100 --> 01:45:39,130
us on what they said was going on in the

2336
01:45:45,330 --> 01:45:44,110
field of UFOs and it was fascinating but

2337
01:45:46,830 --> 01:45:45,340
I was in the middle of producing a

2338
01:45:48,090 --> 01:45:46,840
television series I really didn't have a

2339
01:45:50,370 --> 01:45:48,100
lot of time and I didn't know if they

2340
01:45:53,250 --> 01:45:50,380
were serious or whatever and at the end

2341
01:45:54,689 --> 01:45:53,260
of the the two hours they said look I

2342
01:45:58,199 --> 01:45:54,699
guess it's time for you

2343
01:46:00,000 --> 01:45:58,209
meet the boss the big boss and we said

2344
01:46:01,350 --> 01:46:00,010
well where where is that and they said

2345
01:46:04,649 --> 01:46:01,360
well you'll have to come down to Long

2346
01:46:07,649 --> 01:46:04,659
Beach because he's on a ship down there

2347
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:07,659
and he'll meet you on land and we said

2348
01:46:11,819 --> 01:46:09,610
well when would that be under what

2349
01:46:13,589 --> 01:46:11,829
circumstances and this is the part you

2350
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:13,599
know there's things about you followed

2351
01:46:19,140 --> 01:46:15,280
you that are so crazy you go well that's

2352
01:46:20,549 --> 01:46:19,150
just stupid insane I and yet and yet

2353
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:20,559
they're part of these stories well this

2354
01:46:25,319 --> 01:46:23,050
is that part of that story the guy said

2355
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:25,329
that we would have to meet the boss at

2356
01:46:32,879 --> 01:46:30,610
midnight in the cemetery and I have

2357
01:46:34,770 --> 01:46:32,889
three kids and the first thing I did is

2358
01:46:36,899 --> 01:46:34,780
push back from the table and say okay

2359
01:46:38,819 --> 01:46:36,909
this meetings over right and I just

2360
01:46:40,259 --> 01:46:38,829
ended the meeting and never saw those

2361
01:46:42,719 --> 01:46:40,269
guys again

2362
01:46:45,890 --> 01:46:42,729
but they were quite serious I mean and

2363
01:46:49,229 --> 01:46:45,900
and in fact their whole attitude was so

2364
01:46:51,509 --> 01:46:49,239
sort of dismissive as us of us

2365
01:46:53,459 --> 01:46:51,519
personally it's sort of like well you

2366
01:46:55,199 --> 01:46:53,469
know you're just Hollywood guys but okay

2367
01:46:56,969 --> 01:46:55,209
you've got some power so we're gonna

2368
01:46:58,770 --> 01:46:56,979
tell you what it is but try to keep up

2369
01:47:00,719 --> 01:46:58,780
you know their attitude was just like

2370
01:47:03,959 --> 01:47:00,729
you know I know you're of limited mental

2371
01:47:07,379 --> 01:47:03,969
capacity this is a big story but here's

2372
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:07,389
what's happening and so I've always you

2373
01:47:13,500 --> 01:47:10,090
know I'm you regret it don't you well I

2374
01:47:15,569 --> 01:47:13,510
don't regret meeting somebody in a

2375
01:47:17,009 --> 01:47:15,579
cemetery at midnight I think that's a

2376
01:47:20,069 --> 01:47:17,019
good way to get your ass kicked or

2377
01:47:23,819 --> 01:47:20,079
killed right I just I don't regret not

2378
01:47:27,209 --> 01:47:23,829
doing that but I do miss not hearing

2379
01:47:30,810 --> 01:47:27,219
what that person might have said you

2380
01:47:34,379 --> 01:47:30,820
know did they tell you who he was yeah

2381
01:47:36,089 --> 01:47:34,389
he was I don't you know I didn't take

2382
01:47:37,979 --> 01:47:36,099
notes I don't know if they told us not

2383
01:47:41,069 --> 01:47:37,989
to take notes or whether I just didn't

2384
01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:41,079
take notes so I can't remember exactly I

2385
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:43,030
thought it was an admiral or something I

2386
01:47:48,839 --> 01:47:45,610
mean I know it was like the guy that I

2387
01:47:57,109 --> 01:47:48,849
mean a major guy in the Navy in naval

2388
01:48:03,529 --> 01:48:00,149
fascinating a little bit then at one

2389
01:48:05,939 --> 01:48:03,539
point the guy pulls out a little vial

2390
01:48:07,979 --> 01:48:05,949
you know you see those little sample

2391
01:48:08,610 --> 01:48:07,989
vials with the black top that screw top

2392
01:48:11,810 --> 01:48:08,620
and it's

2393
01:48:14,940 --> 01:48:11,820
glass little vial and he sits it he just

2394
01:48:16,980 --> 01:48:14,950
takes out of his pocket slams it onto

2395
01:48:18,330 --> 01:48:16,990
the table and says you don't want to

2396
01:48:20,970 --> 01:48:18,340
know why they're here this is why

2397
01:48:23,540 --> 01:48:20,980
they're here and I picked this thing up

2398
01:48:28,710 --> 01:48:23,550
and look at it it's got gold in it

2399
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:28,720
really yeah man price is C now if you

2400
01:48:33,810 --> 01:48:31,330
could turn knowing what you know today

2401
01:48:37,290 --> 01:48:33,820
right and you're speaking about DeLonge

2402
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:37,300
and disclosure and in our to what

2403
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:40,090
DeLong's saying Zone in you know you

2404
01:48:46,140 --> 01:48:43,570
passed up an opportunity that and I get

2405
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:46,150
email every day suggesting some pretty

2406
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:48,250
crazy stuff and I don't know what to

2407
01:48:52,980 --> 01:48:50,650
follow up on and whatnot but I haven't

2408
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:52,990
had the men in black show up and say hey

2409
01:48:57,180 --> 01:48:55,090
let's go hang out we're gonna we're

2410
01:49:00,320 --> 01:48:57,190
gonna do a two-hour presentation was it

2411
01:49:03,540 --> 01:49:00,330
was strange and I and and look I'm a

2412
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:03,550
reporter an investigative reporter I'm

2413
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:07,770
not naive I I've got a pretty good

2414
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:10,690
[\h__\h] detector when I'm being played

2415
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:14,890
not perfect but but good and the reason

2416
01:49:20,970 --> 01:49:17,410
I ended up speaking to these guys is and

2417
01:49:24,090 --> 01:49:20,980
for the time I did is they didn't seem

2418
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:24,100
tenuous at all they seemed like military

2419
01:49:28,980 --> 01:49:27,010
guys and they seemed like they knew a

2420
01:49:31,020 --> 01:49:28,990
lot and so we listened to him and as

2421
01:49:33,210 --> 01:49:31,030
long as we're backfilling here at the

2422
01:49:35,730 --> 01:49:33,220
party the darks guys party which was at

2423
01:49:39,060 --> 01:49:35,740
my house right so here's a guy crashing

2424
01:49:41,010 --> 01:49:39,070
a party at my house right and I didn't

2425
01:49:45,030 --> 01:49:41,020
have a lot of time to talk to him but

2426
01:49:47,340 --> 01:49:45,040
Brent did and at one point this guy

2427
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:47,350
pulled out a you know grabbed a napkin

2428
01:49:52,590 --> 01:49:49,210
and started writing on it writing a

2429
01:49:54,420 --> 01:49:52,600
bunch of symbols and [\h__\h] on it and we

2430
01:49:58,830 --> 01:49:54,430
said what's that and he said secret of

2431
01:50:01,340 --> 01:49:58,840
the universe and and I was like secret

2432
01:50:04,110 --> 01:50:01,350
of the universe and he goes sound light

2433
01:50:05,730 --> 01:50:04,120
frequency yeah I remember that I

2434
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:05,740
remember I don't know what that means I

2435
01:50:09,660 --> 01:50:08,170
mean well I haven't seen anybody talking

2436
01:50:12,420 --> 01:50:09,670
about I don't know what that means is

2437
01:50:15,210 --> 01:50:12,430
because it's a secret but I guess I did

2438
01:50:18,630 --> 01:50:15,220
ask you before where that napkin is yes

2439
01:50:21,630 --> 01:50:18,640
and brent has it and one of the things

2440
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:21,640
that I'm looking forward to doing is I'm

2441
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:22,330
I'm

2442
01:50:29,310 --> 01:50:26,010
speaking at the at the I you FOC

2443
01:50:31,770 --> 01:50:29,320
conference in Phoenix in February I'm

2444
01:50:33,900 --> 01:50:31,780
getting the napkin from Brent we're

2445
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:33,910
gonna photograph it we're gonna have

2446
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:35,890
that up and that's gonna be part of the

2447
01:50:40,890 --> 01:50:38,770
presentation very cool very and of

2448
01:50:44,550 --> 01:50:40,900
course I'll call you before I go there

2449
01:50:46,530 --> 01:50:44,560
and tell you all about well you know see

2450
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:46,540
when we're talking about disclosure

2451
01:50:52,260 --> 01:50:48,250
we're talking about the drip drip drip

2452
01:50:54,900 --> 01:50:52,270
in and along certainly who does not need

2453
01:50:57,930 --> 01:50:54,910
any financial gain right he's already

2454
01:51:00,810 --> 01:50:57,940
gained the finances so he doesn't really

2455
01:51:03,870 --> 01:51:00,820
have a any skin in in the race when it

2456
01:51:06,090 --> 01:51:03,880
comes to that aspect of it but the this

2457
01:51:10,620 --> 01:51:06,100
drip drip drip it hasn't been talked

2458
01:51:13,650 --> 01:51:10,630
like in the public not like this this is

2459
01:51:17,790 --> 01:51:13,660
in the 1970s we're talking about today

2460
01:51:20,130 --> 01:51:17,800
in 2017 I feel like there's something

2461
01:51:23,190 --> 01:51:20,140
about to break but when it does we've

2462
01:51:26,250 --> 01:51:23,200
been so desensitized that it just may

2463
01:51:29,330 --> 01:51:26,260
get lost in that 24-hour news 24 minute

2464
01:51:32,610 --> 01:51:29,340
news cycle that we're in now you know

2465
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:32,620
that is a valid point of view I don't

2466
01:51:37,860 --> 01:51:35,770
think that's going to happen and there's

2467
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:37,870
only one reason for that which is I

2468
01:51:44,580 --> 01:51:41,050
don't care I don't care how busy and

2469
01:51:47,340 --> 01:51:44,590
media-saturated we are this is if it is

2470
01:51:49,890 --> 01:51:47,350
true and I and and if there is something

2471
01:51:52,050 --> 01:51:49,900
we're talking about it's the biggest of

2472
01:51:54,030 --> 01:51:52,060
the big so in other words it redefines

2473
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:54,040
everything I mean once once you admit

2474
01:51:58,710 --> 01:51:56,890
that it isn't life out there we're

2475
01:52:00,810 --> 01:51:58,720
looking for but that life out there has

2476
01:52:02,940 --> 01:52:00,820
come here then it raises so many

2477
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:02,950
questions it's about it and it redefines

2478
01:52:09,630 --> 01:52:05,110
everything from government to military

2479
01:52:12,270 --> 01:52:09,640
security to education to you know the

2480
01:52:14,850 --> 01:52:12,280
the medical business the science of

2481
01:52:18,180 --> 01:52:14,860
physics and I mean everything changes

2482
01:52:19,500 --> 01:52:18,190
almost overnight that will be a story

2483
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:19,510
that goes on decades

2484
01:52:23,340 --> 01:52:21,610
well you've written about this and let

2485
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:23,350
me ask you do you has your attitude

2486
01:52:29,610 --> 01:52:26,650
changed with that do you think that we

2487
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:29,620
and I'm talking about globally to every

2488
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:32,170
cut do you think we can handle it yeah I

2489
01:52:39,690 --> 01:52:35,770
think we can handle it and

2490
01:52:41,460 --> 01:52:39,700
it's sort of the way I always explain it

2491
01:52:44,340 --> 01:52:41,470
won't be perfect it'll be a bit messy

2492
01:52:46,860 --> 01:52:44,350
it's like if you remember a doctor

2493
01:52:49,620 --> 01:52:46,870
strangelove there's a character played

2494
01:52:52,590 --> 01:52:49,630
by George C Scott who plays general buck

2495
01:52:55,340 --> 01:52:52,600
turgidson mm-hm and he's talking about

2496
01:52:57,960 --> 01:52:55,350
nuclear war but you can apply it to

2497
01:53:00,060 --> 01:52:57,970
disclosure and he says I ain't saying

2498
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:00,070
we're not gonna get our hair mussed at

2499
01:53:04,650 --> 01:53:02,110
20 the best lines in the movie I think

2500
01:53:06,270 --> 01:53:04,660
so and I guess that's what I would say

2501
01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:06,280
to you I ain't saying we're not gonna

2502
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:08,080
get our hair mussed but we'll handle it

2503
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:11,050
it'll be it'll be a little crazy and

2504
01:53:17,940 --> 01:53:14,290
we'll it will redefine things but you

2505
01:53:25,110 --> 01:53:17,950
know it's crazy now we're gonna lose 25

2506
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:25,120
million max exactly it's a great film I

2507
01:53:28,980 --> 01:53:27,250
just saw it it was yeah we watch it all

2508
01:53:31,170 --> 01:53:28,990
the time that's that's a once a month

2509
01:53:32,820 --> 01:53:31,180
thing around here let's take a quick

2510
01:53:34,620 --> 01:53:32,830
break right here our guest tonight Bryce

2511
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:34,630
a but when we come back we got to talk

2512
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:36,730
about what if the Beatles would have

2513
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:38,290
stayed together we'll do all of that

2514
01:53:43,170 --> 01:53:40,930
next we'll take your phone calls and

2515
01:53:43,740 --> 01:53:43,180
we're gonna give away some books stay

2516
01:53:45,980 --> 01:53:43,750
with us

2517
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[Music]

2518
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2594
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you want to know a secret

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I love police I really love ponies I'm

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serious I couldn't stay sane without

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poor mr. brush why fade to black because

2598
01:57:45,060 --> 01:57:42,030
this is fade to black with Jimmy Church

2599
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on the game changer radio network and K

2600
01:57:49,950 --> 01:58:01,109
[Music]

2601
01:58:06,370 --> 01:58:03,520
all right welcome back fade to black I'm

2602
01:58:08,259 --> 01:58:06,380
your host Jimmy church [\h__\h] - Bryce

2603
01:58:09,839 --> 01:58:08,269
table tonight all subjects are on the

2604
01:58:12,719 --> 01:58:09,849
table and we've done a pretty good job

2605
01:58:15,850 --> 01:58:12,729
covering just about everything including

2606
01:58:17,020 --> 01:58:15,860
cyber blazing and and brights I'm just

2607
01:58:20,169 --> 01:58:17,030
gonna tell you right now you have no

2608
01:58:23,919 --> 01:58:20,179
idea what you did to Twitter these

2609
01:58:26,799 --> 01:58:23,929
photos are so sore man man man and man I

2610
01:58:28,270 --> 01:58:26,809
got to tell you pretty I'm gonna send a

2611
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couple of these to you this is what

2612
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you've done but yes I per blazing is is

2613
01:58:39,009 --> 01:58:35,380
a thing your son was right oh boy well

2614
01:58:40,870 --> 01:58:39,019
okay I can confirm all right now this is

2615
01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:40,880
um let's I'm gonna open up the phone

2616
01:58:47,350 --> 01:58:42,650
lines now three two three eight to five

2617
01:58:50,109 --> 01:58:47,360
five zero four five and we'll take some

2618
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:50,119
questions for for Bryce and make the

2619
01:58:55,540 --> 01:58:53,090
questions good and you'll get a book

2620
01:58:58,209 --> 01:58:55,550
okay you'll get as a new Beatles book or

2621
01:59:01,180 --> 01:58:58,219
maybe even if Bryce is feeling good

2622
01:59:03,069 --> 01:59:01,190
he'll go outside of that and we'll do

2623
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:03,079
one of his JFK books or something but

2624
01:59:09,370 --> 01:59:04,610
three two three eight to five five zero

2625
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:09,380
four five and one of the things you you

2626
01:59:15,009 --> 01:59:12,170
love writing alternative history I do

2627
01:59:18,399 --> 01:59:15,019
and I want to I want to bring up a

2628
01:59:21,759 --> 01:59:18,409
subject with that which is the Mandela

2629
01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:21,769
effect or the possibility of parallel

2630
01:59:29,500 --> 01:59:24,610
worlds or time lines that are crossing

2631
01:59:31,209 --> 01:59:29,510
maybe and another world right to our

2632
01:59:31,810 --> 01:59:31,219
left or right the beatles are still

2633
01:59:34,839 --> 01:59:31,820
together

2634
01:59:36,699 --> 01:59:34,849
well if physicists have anything to say

2635
01:59:39,399 --> 01:59:36,709
about it that's probably true because

2636
01:59:42,029 --> 01:59:39,409
they do basically say there can be an

2637
01:59:44,979 --> 01:59:42,039
infinite number of realities although

2638
01:59:48,219 --> 01:59:44,989
the book series I've been writing is

2639
01:59:50,589 --> 01:59:48,229
called break point and and I try not

2640
01:59:53,259 --> 01:59:50,599
it's not a time travel series it's not a

2641
01:59:55,330 --> 01:59:53,269
parallel universe series there's not a

2642
01:59:58,089 --> 01:59:55,340
science fiction aspect what I try to do

2643
02:00:01,149 --> 01:59:58,099
is take a rather high concept what-if

2644
02:00:02,949 --> 02:00:01,159
and find a place where history breaks in

2645
02:00:04,930 --> 02:00:02,959
a different way the first book was

2646
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:04,940
called surrounded by enemies what if

2647
02:00:09,429 --> 02:00:07,130
Kennedy survived Dallas that's the

2648
02:00:11,739 --> 02:00:09,439
easiest break point you can do because

2649
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:11,749
the break point could be pretty simple

2650
02:00:14,890 --> 02:00:13,610
he doesn't die in Dallas and

2651
02:00:17,350 --> 02:00:14,900
then you're off in your new adventure

2652
02:00:19,149 --> 02:00:17,360
and I take these very seriously I try to

2653
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:19,159
make them credible build a credible

2654
02:00:24,100 --> 02:00:20,810
world which could be an alternative

2655
02:00:25,660 --> 02:00:24,110
universe I guess so the Kennedy one by

2656
02:00:28,540 --> 02:00:25,670
the way if anyone wants to that book its

2657
02:00:31,149 --> 02:00:28,550
what if JFK calm you can find that but

2658
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:31,159
for the second in the series I've always

2659
02:00:36,310 --> 02:00:33,770
been compelled by you know these moments

2660
02:00:39,580 --> 02:00:36,320
of loss we lost JFK what if we didn't

2661
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:39,590
well we lost the Beatles in 1969 and

2662
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:41,690
1970 and it would have been nice if we

2663
02:00:46,359 --> 02:00:45,110
hadn't who among us you know doesn't

2664
02:00:47,950 --> 02:00:46,369
think it would be nice if we could have

2665
02:00:50,140 --> 02:00:47,960
gotten a few more years out of him after

2666
02:00:51,340 --> 02:00:50,150
all they were contemporaries of the

2667
02:00:53,649 --> 02:00:51,350
Rolling Stones and the Rolling Stones

2668
02:00:55,899 --> 02:00:53,659
are still playing right now so that

2669
02:00:58,090 --> 02:00:55,909
could have been a reality for us so I

2670
02:00:59,859 --> 02:00:58,100
wrote a book called once there was a way

2671
02:01:03,300 --> 02:00:59,869
what if the Beatles stayed together it

2672
02:01:05,590 --> 02:01:03,310
will be out December 5th you could get a

2673
02:01:07,570 --> 02:01:05,600
copy of it right now we're gonna give

2674
02:01:10,540 --> 02:01:07,580
away three of them but you can pre-order

2675
02:01:12,700 --> 02:01:10,550
right now at Amazon Beatles dot-com or

2676
02:01:13,479 --> 02:01:12,710
you can go to the site what if Beatles

2677
02:01:16,479 --> 02:01:13,489
dot-com

2678
02:01:19,270 --> 02:01:16,489
either way it's it's the newest book

2679
02:01:22,060 --> 02:01:19,280
it's coming out and I wrote it because

2680
02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:22,070
the truth is sometimes you want to read

2681
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:24,770
a book and you can't find the exact book

2682
02:01:28,570 --> 02:01:26,330
that you want anywhere that was very

2683
02:01:32,500 --> 02:01:28,580
true about the Beatles so I wrote it and

2684
02:01:34,359 --> 02:01:32,510
it it was hard because the Beatles fans

2685
02:01:36,370 --> 02:01:34,369
are very discriminating but I've done

2686
02:01:38,109 --> 02:01:36,380
the best I can and I'm pretty proud of

2687
02:01:38,709 --> 02:01:38,119
it and I hope people get a chance to

2688
02:01:41,709 --> 02:01:38,719
look at it

2689
02:01:44,470 --> 02:01:41,719
were you a Beatles fan sure although I

2690
02:01:47,140 --> 02:01:44,480
remembered when you know at the the

2691
02:01:50,229 --> 02:01:47,150
exact time my my friends and I were kind

2692
02:01:52,270 --> 02:01:50,239
of Beach Boys guys and my friends

2693
02:01:56,100 --> 02:01:52,280
sisters were all Beatles fans now of

2694
02:02:00,070 --> 02:01:56,110
course I became a Beatles fan and and

2695
02:02:02,350 --> 02:02:00,080
and have been all my life and and I I

2696
02:02:04,660 --> 02:02:02,360
really missed the fact that they didn't

2697
02:02:07,629 --> 02:02:04,670
get to stay together so I created the

2698
02:02:10,570 --> 02:02:07,639
world where they did and it's fun whoa

2699
02:02:13,300 --> 02:02:10,580
so what what would you have wanted to be

2700
02:02:16,810 --> 02:02:13,310
I know you wrote about it but what did

2701
02:02:21,280 --> 02:02:16,820
you want the world to be if they didn't

2702
02:02:24,100 --> 02:02:21,290
break up well well here's the thing I

2703
02:02:26,140 --> 02:02:24,110
wouldn't want it to be a jokey world

2704
02:02:26,870 --> 02:02:26,150
something that couldn't happen I tried

2705
02:02:30,290 --> 02:02:26,880
to live in the

2706
02:02:33,260 --> 02:02:30,300
real fabric of of what the what their

2707
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:33,270
world was like people say for example

2708
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:35,250
that Yoko Ono broke up the Beatles well

2709
02:02:38,540 --> 02:02:37,290
you could make an argument for that but

2710
02:02:40,820 --> 02:02:38,550
on the other hand you could easily make

2711
02:02:42,350 --> 02:02:40,830
an argument that these guys if they

2712
02:02:45,229 --> 02:02:42,360
wanted to stay together could have

2713
02:02:47,479 --> 02:02:45,239
survived Yoko Ono no matter how

2714
02:02:49,490 --> 02:02:47,489
troublesome she was but if you're gonna

2715
02:02:51,439 --> 02:02:49,500
give the credit to Yoko Ono for breaking

2716
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:51,449
them up then you all would also have to

2717
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:53,370
give the possibility that if Yoko

2718
02:02:56,750 --> 02:02:54,810
behaved differently they could have

2719
02:02:58,209 --> 02:02:56,760
figured out how to stay together so I've

2720
02:02:59,930 --> 02:02:58,219
tried to make a lot of credible

2721
02:03:02,720 --> 02:02:59,940
decisions about that

2722
02:03:05,540 --> 02:03:02,730
because I don't I didn't want to create

2723
02:03:07,430 --> 02:03:05,550
a fantastic it could never happen world

2724
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:07,440
I wanted to create a world where you

2725
02:03:12,379 --> 02:03:09,570
could actually see an alternate history

2726
02:03:15,890 --> 02:03:12,389
now I will say I've gone out of my way

2727
02:03:18,649 --> 02:03:15,900
to add some suspense some thrills and

2728
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:18,659
some you know I'm a I'm a television

2729
02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:21,330
writer you know I'm I'm a dramatist so I

2730
02:03:25,610 --> 02:03:23,610
I threw some serious drama into the

2731
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:25,620
whole thing that I think will reward

2732
02:03:32,439 --> 02:03:28,290
readers and make them really smile and

2733
02:03:34,550 --> 02:03:32,449
have a good time do you remember about

2734
02:03:35,629 --> 02:03:34,560
man I want to say it was about five

2735
02:03:39,470 --> 02:03:35,639
years ago it could have been a little

2736
02:03:43,149 --> 02:03:39,480
longer where this the this tape surfaced

2737
02:03:45,919 --> 02:03:43,159
on the Internet of the Beatles the sky

2738
02:03:47,689 --> 02:03:45,929
time-traveled his yeah right did you

2739
02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:47,699
listen to that tape yeah

2740
02:03:53,090 --> 02:03:51,330
listen that's I've seen that kind of

2741
02:03:55,640 --> 02:03:53,100
stuff I mean I guess I was trying to

2742
02:03:58,340 --> 02:03:55,650
transcend that kind of kind of that's

2743
02:04:01,399 --> 02:03:58,350
kind of low-rent I mean it and in and in

2744
02:04:03,860 --> 02:04:01,409
fact there's all kinds of people over

2745
02:04:06,020 --> 02:04:03,870
the years that have said well I put

2746
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:06,030
together my own Beatles album of what

2747
02:04:10,310 --> 02:04:07,050
they would have put out if they were

2748
02:04:12,050 --> 02:04:10,320
solo artists or whatever and and you

2749
02:04:14,750 --> 02:04:12,060
know they spent five minutes on it and

2750
02:04:16,669 --> 02:04:14,760
act like you know they've nailed it I

2751
02:04:19,820 --> 02:04:16,679
think it's much more complicated than

2752
02:04:22,070 --> 02:04:19,830
that first of all it is true that it

2753
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:22,080
would be wonderful if you take the best

2754
02:04:27,110 --> 02:04:24,570
of the solo Beatles imagine a Beatles

2755
02:04:30,350 --> 02:04:27,120
album that had Ringo Starr singing

2756
02:04:32,479 --> 02:04:30,360
photograph and McCartney doing band on

2757
02:04:35,180 --> 02:04:32,489
the run and you know Lennon's Imagine

2758
02:04:36,890 --> 02:04:35,190
and Harrison's all things must pass you

2759
02:04:37,610 --> 02:04:36,900
know as Beatle songs that would be

2760
02:04:40,250 --> 02:04:37,620
fantastic

2761
02:04:40,700 --> 02:04:40,260
but I would say this if the Beatles had

2762
02:04:42,350 --> 02:04:40,710
stayed

2763
02:04:44,300 --> 02:04:42,360
gather they wouldn't have just

2764
02:04:46,459 --> 02:04:44,310
replicated their solo work they would

2765
02:04:48,290 --> 02:04:46,469
have also been exposed to different

2766
02:04:50,330 --> 02:04:48,300
experiences and they would have written

2767
02:04:52,670 --> 02:04:50,340
different music music that doesn't exist

2768
02:04:54,200 --> 02:04:52,680
at all and in fact one of the things

2769
02:04:58,040 --> 02:04:54,210
that we're going to be debuting next

2770
02:05:00,410 --> 02:04:58,050
month is working with a musician Brian

2771
02:05:02,450 --> 02:05:00,420
bring gelsen from and his group anchor

2772
02:05:04,360 --> 02:05:02,460
and bear we've put together a Beatle

2773
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:04,370
song that never was but could have been

2774
02:05:10,070 --> 02:05:07,290
and we're gonna be debuting a video and

2775
02:05:12,650 --> 02:05:10,080
the song itself next month and it's kind

2776
02:05:15,650 --> 02:05:12,660
of fun it's it's a song that was in my

2777
02:05:19,070 --> 02:05:15,660
books world recorded at George

2778
02:05:20,420 --> 02:05:19,080
Harrison's friar Park estate in 1971 and

2779
02:05:21,890 --> 02:05:20,430
we all know the Beatles didn't exist

2780
02:05:24,170 --> 02:05:21,900
them but they do in my book and they

2781
02:05:29,540 --> 02:05:24,180
record this song have you met any of the

2782
02:05:32,900 --> 02:05:29,550
Beatles I know I been at Beatles

2783
02:05:35,450 --> 02:05:32,910
concerts I here's one quick Beatles

2784
02:05:37,940 --> 02:05:35,460
story that I think is kind of fun yeah I

2785
02:05:39,610 --> 02:05:37,950
was a kind of working at a hippie radio

2786
02:05:42,590 --> 02:05:39,620
station in Eugene Oregon

2787
02:05:45,380 --> 02:05:42,600
when McCartney was on his wings across

2788
02:05:47,660 --> 02:05:45,390
America tour and one day after I got off

2789
02:05:49,729 --> 02:05:47,670
the news the program director steps into

2790
02:05:52,910 --> 02:05:49,739
my office and says and holds out a

2791
02:05:55,070 --> 02:05:52,920
ticket and he hands it to me and he says

2792
02:05:57,620 --> 02:05:55,080
I just got word that if it's gonna

2793
02:05:59,930 --> 02:05:57,630
happen it's gonna happen tonight get in

2794
02:06:02,420 --> 02:05:59,940
your car and go so he hands me a ticket

2795
02:06:05,690 --> 02:06:02,430
to the wings across America concert at

2796
02:06:08,810 --> 02:06:05,700
the Seattle King dome I jump in my 1965

2797
02:06:11,150 --> 02:06:08,820
Mustang and drive like a bat out of hell

2798
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:11,160
to get up there the whole way just like

2799
02:06:16,250 --> 02:06:13,170
my atoms are vibrating I may see the

2800
02:06:18,590 --> 02:06:16,260
Beatles were United it didn't happen

2801
02:06:21,350 --> 02:06:18,600
that night didn't you know but I always

2802
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:21,360
thought how great it would have been and

2803
02:06:24,410 --> 02:06:23,010
I think many of the people who will

2804
02:06:26,150 --> 02:06:24,420
enjoy this book have had that same

2805
02:06:29,300 --> 02:06:26,160
experience what would it have been like

2806
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:29,310
to to experience the Beatles as a

2807
02:06:34,729 --> 02:06:33,090
growing vibrant group all through your

2808
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:34,739
lives I mean would that be interesting

2809
02:06:39,110 --> 02:06:36,450
so that's what I've tried to deliver to

2810
02:06:45,350 --> 02:06:39,120
people the wings across America that

2811
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:45,360
tour the that era for me was was one of

2812
02:06:51,020 --> 02:06:48,770
the best yeah and I thought that Paul

2813
02:06:54,060 --> 02:06:51,030
really really got his feet on the ground

2814
02:06:55,950 --> 02:06:54,070
but but the band was pretty badass too

2815
02:06:58,350 --> 02:06:55,960
as well they were but you know the thing

2816
02:07:01,740 --> 02:06:58,360
I remember about that going up to the

2817
02:07:04,229 --> 02:07:01,750
Kingdome that night was McCartney still

2818
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:04,239
haven't gotten over the Beatles so he

2819
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:06,250
didn't want to play Beatles music now he

2820
02:07:11,700 --> 02:07:08,530
does all the time now he completely owns

2821
02:07:14,250 --> 02:07:11,710
his history but at that time most of the

2822
02:07:15,899 --> 02:07:14,260
concert was wings songs which we all

2823
02:07:17,399 --> 02:07:15,909
liked but they still they weren't

2824
02:07:19,379 --> 02:07:17,409
beatles songs and he sort of

2825
02:07:21,359 --> 02:07:19,389
begrudgingly at the end of that concert

2826
02:07:23,550 --> 02:07:21,369
played like five or six songs as I

2827
02:07:25,979 --> 02:07:23,560
recall there were Beatles songs and now

2828
02:07:27,300 --> 02:07:25,989
of course he sort of accepts himself his

2829
02:07:29,819 --> 02:07:27,310
history and everything and it's all a

2830
02:07:31,979 --> 02:07:29,829
big fun party and you get to you know

2831
02:07:34,169 --> 02:07:31,989
think about the Beatles again and I

2832
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:34,179
guess the thing is we all think about

2833
02:07:38,790 --> 02:07:36,610
the Beatles we all know that they're

2834
02:07:42,450 --> 02:07:38,800
never gonna happen George is dead John

2835
02:07:44,220 --> 02:07:42,460
is dead it's never gonna happen so maybe

2836
02:07:45,660 --> 02:07:44,230
for a few minutes when you read my book

2837
02:07:47,790 --> 02:07:45,670
you can imagine what it would have been

2838
02:07:50,790 --> 02:07:47,800
like if it had yeah before I get to the

2839
02:07:54,229 --> 02:07:50,800
phones I've gone back and forth this is

2840
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:54,239
what's really weird for me personally I

2841
02:08:00,000 --> 02:07:57,250
didn't I was a more of a Rolling Stones

2842
02:08:02,879 --> 02:08:00,010
guy right there were any that about you

2843
02:08:06,180 --> 02:08:02,889
I just assumed that but then then I kind

2844
02:08:09,089 --> 02:08:06,190
of went back and I as I started to grow

2845
02:08:11,100 --> 02:08:09,099
up and went back and started listening

2846
02:08:13,140 --> 02:08:11,110
to the Beatles

2847
02:08:15,300 --> 02:08:13,150
not only sergeant pepper's but you go

2848
02:08:17,510 --> 02:08:15,310
back to meet the Beatles right you go

2849
02:08:20,069 --> 02:08:17,520
back to yeah first that was some

2850
02:08:23,700 --> 02:08:20,079
extraordinary stuff that was going down

2851
02:08:25,919 --> 02:08:23,710
and I appreciate him more today than

2852
02:08:28,649 --> 02:08:25,929
then back then but I was going back and

2853
02:08:30,569 --> 02:08:28,659
forth back and forth and then I went

2854
02:08:32,910 --> 02:08:30,579
through a period I'll say it man I I

2855
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:32,920
really thought that the stones kind of

2856
02:08:38,700 --> 02:08:36,010
sucked and and and that the Beatles were

2857
02:08:41,220 --> 02:08:38,710
the real real musicians and then I would

2858
02:08:43,290 --> 02:08:41,230
you know so I I went back and forth I

2859
02:08:44,729 --> 02:08:43,300
was never in one camp or the other but

2860
02:08:46,819 --> 02:08:44,739
let's go to the phones how your life

2861
02:08:50,129 --> 02:08:46,829
fade to black who's calling

2862
02:08:52,919 --> 02:08:50,139
hi this is Megan hi Megan how are you

2863
02:08:57,750 --> 02:08:52,929
say hi to Bryce hi Bryce

2864
02:09:00,720 --> 02:08:57,760
Aimee everything sounds and speaking of

2865
02:09:03,330 --> 02:09:00,730
it's a it's quite refreshing to hear

2866
02:09:07,530 --> 02:09:03,340
from somebody in your position to talk

2867
02:09:10,140 --> 02:09:07,540
about you know disclosure and

2868
02:09:11,940 --> 02:09:10,150
and being open and what you've

2869
02:09:13,740 --> 02:09:11,950
experienced personally where a lot of

2870
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:13,750
people wouldn't really feel comfortable

2871
02:09:20,670 --> 02:09:16,570
doing that so thank you for getting for

2872
02:09:22,350 --> 02:09:20,680
speaking out I I kind of have to Potter

2873
02:09:24,090 --> 02:09:22,360
I don't know if I have time or not to be

2874
02:09:26,220 --> 02:09:24,100
able to do but first the comment about

2875
02:09:29,070 --> 02:09:26,230
I'm huge doing the music and I love

2876
02:09:32,070 --> 02:09:29,080
music and you know the singer still on

2877
02:09:33,900 --> 02:09:32,080
the singer or whatever musicians the

2878
02:09:35,370 --> 02:09:33,910
challenge that I would think that the

2879
02:09:36,810 --> 02:09:35,380
Beatles might have and I don't know if

2880
02:09:42,180 --> 02:09:36,820
this is in your book which I'm going to

2881
02:09:43,650 --> 02:09:42,190
get is whether or not over time they

2882
02:09:45,330 --> 02:09:43,660
would have to start having to reinvent

2883
02:09:48,450 --> 02:09:45,340
themselves like they had already done a

2884
02:09:50,700 --> 02:09:48,460
couple of times right yes I think loses

2885
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:50,710
their essence in the first place the

2886
02:09:55,290 --> 02:09:52,810
essence is what made them popular and

2887
02:09:59,130 --> 02:09:55,300
what so many bands and you know after

2888
02:10:01,590 --> 02:09:59,140
them had built their base line of music

2889
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:01,600
sound like The Descendants you know they

2890
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:05,050
they tended to be you know a big bass

2891
02:10:10,200 --> 02:10:07,210
line for pop music but they were

2892
02:10:13,380 --> 02:10:10,210
inspired by the Ramones so there's like

2893
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:13,390
all these like lines of discovery that

2894
02:10:18,540 --> 02:10:15,130
you know I would think that would be

2895
02:10:22,290 --> 02:10:18,550
lost over time I know you know Aerosmith

2896
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:22,300
hasn't really lost their fur but they

2897
02:10:26,580 --> 02:10:25,090
kind of I mean I don't want to put them

2898
02:10:28,490 --> 02:10:26,590
down but they kind of have you know like

2899
02:10:32,970 --> 02:10:28,500
they're not there you know there's like

2900
02:10:35,700 --> 02:10:32,980
you know a lot of people as in cash

2901
02:10:38,850 --> 02:10:35,710
don't go and see them as much but I have

2902
02:10:41,790 --> 02:10:38,860
still a lot of respect to them so I

2903
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:41,800
guess my point is what do I mean if

2904
02:10:48,540 --> 02:10:43,930
that's in a book that on paying off and

2905
02:10:50,460 --> 02:10:48,550
that part of my common carriers over but

2906
02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:50,470
it's not I'm really curious what your

2907
02:10:54,140 --> 02:10:52,210
thoughts are and like do you think that

2908
02:10:56,460 --> 02:10:54,150
they would have lost their effort well I

2909
02:10:58,020 --> 02:10:56,470
think that they would always have

2910
02:11:01,040 --> 02:10:58,030
worried about losing their essence I

2911
02:11:03,450 --> 02:11:01,050
mean the Beatles were arrests of dynamic

2912
02:11:05,220 --> 02:11:03,460
musical force and that they wouldn't

2913
02:11:08,250 --> 02:11:05,230
have stopped just because they stayed

2914
02:11:10,800 --> 02:11:08,260
together but the Beatles staying

2915
02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:10,810
together would certainly have changed a

2916
02:11:16,050 --> 02:11:12,930
dynamic right now they're they're like a

2917
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:16,060
fly frozen in amber you know there's

2918
02:11:20,879 --> 02:11:18,610
their mythical and they wouldn't have

2919
02:11:22,500 --> 02:11:20,889
been mythical in the same way

2920
02:11:24,689 --> 02:11:22,510
they stayed together they would have

2921
02:11:27,569 --> 02:11:24,699
become somewhat like the stones they

2922
02:11:29,729 --> 02:11:27,579
would they would be a the the most

2923
02:11:32,159 --> 02:11:29,739
famous rock and roll group still playing

2924
02:11:33,839 --> 02:11:32,169
if they were still playing so one of the

2925
02:11:35,759 --> 02:11:33,849
ways that I approached that in the book

2926
02:11:37,859 --> 02:11:35,769
and the book has written from the point

2927
02:11:40,139 --> 02:11:37,869
of view of like a rolling stone style

2928
02:11:42,839 --> 02:11:40,149
magazine looking back on the Beatles and

2929
02:11:45,299 --> 02:11:42,849
the the book focuses on the years of

2930
02:11:47,580 --> 02:11:45,309
what I call maximum danger and my

2931
02:11:50,759 --> 02:11:47,590
maximum danger I mean to the existence

2932
02:11:55,409 --> 02:11:50,769
of the group and those years are 68 69

2933
02:11:58,560 --> 02:11:55,419
70 71 72 73 74 75 those are the years

2934
02:12:02,520 --> 02:11:58,570
that the book focuses on it does at the

2935
02:12:04,229 --> 02:12:02,530
end talk about the longer frame and I

2936
02:12:06,379 --> 02:12:04,239
think clearly in the years that I'm

2937
02:12:09,839 --> 02:12:06,389
focused on you can take a lot of

2938
02:12:12,569 --> 02:12:09,849
inspiration from the work that they did

2939
02:12:15,659 --> 02:12:12,579
as solo artists because it was a very

2940
02:12:18,060 --> 02:12:15,669
very strong amount of good work as solo

2941
02:12:19,109 --> 02:12:18,070
artists but I think the Beatles I think

2942
02:12:24,209 --> 02:12:19,119
you're absolutely right

2943
02:12:26,549 --> 02:12:24,219
I take your point perfectly the Beatles

2944
02:12:30,209 --> 02:12:26,559
none of us would want to see The Beatles

2945
02:12:39,419 --> 02:12:30,219
become an ordinary band and and least of

2946
02:12:41,370 --> 02:12:39,429
all them they would never fade away just

2947
02:12:43,799 --> 02:12:41,380
fade away you know play nine playing

2948
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:43,809
Vegas but at the end of the day though I

2949
02:12:48,060 --> 02:12:45,610
turn you know I read a lot about them

2950
02:12:50,100 --> 02:12:48,070
just like for JFK I read 50 JFK books I

2951
02:12:53,219 --> 02:12:50,110
read a lot of Beatles books and thought

2952
02:12:57,330 --> 02:12:53,229
a lot about it and and if you think

2953
02:12:59,699 --> 02:12:57,340
about it John Lennon himself was was

2954
02:13:02,219 --> 02:12:59,709
inspired by and proud of being a rock

2955
02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:02,229
and roll band right I mean that was he

2956
02:13:06,810 --> 02:13:04,570
he took a lot of joy in that even though

2957
02:13:10,739 --> 02:13:06,820
he he pushed the boundaries in so many

2958
02:13:13,830 --> 02:13:10,749
different ways but he still at a at one

2959
02:13:16,290 --> 02:13:13,840
level believed that it was good to just

2960
02:13:17,790 --> 02:13:16,300
be great at playing rock and roll so he

2961
02:13:19,199 --> 02:13:17,800
could have always fallen back on that

2962
02:13:21,389 --> 02:13:19,209
and we would have probably liked that

2963
02:13:23,069 --> 02:13:21,399
and the Beatles would never have not

2964
02:13:25,409 --> 02:13:23,079
reinvented themselves they would have

2965
02:13:26,879 --> 02:13:25,419
continually pushed forward so I put that

2966
02:13:27,889 --> 02:13:26,889
into the book and I think you'll be

2967
02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:27,899
pretty happy with it

2968
02:13:32,909 --> 02:13:30,130
Meighan this is what I want you to do

2969
02:13:33,850 --> 02:13:32,919
just write Rita at Jimi Church radio.com

2970
02:13:36,100 --> 02:13:33,860
and you

2971
02:13:38,050 --> 02:13:36,110
do it through our website too as well

2972
02:13:40,570 --> 02:13:38,060
through the contact page send us your

2973
02:13:42,490 --> 02:13:40,580
address and we will get the first copy

2974
02:13:44,670 --> 02:13:42,500
of the book out there to you when it's

2975
02:13:47,620 --> 02:13:44,680
released congratulations

2976
02:13:50,170 --> 02:13:47,630
alright and Jimmy one thing we should

2977
02:13:52,720 --> 02:13:50,180
tell everybody is I haven't seen the

2978
02:13:55,840 --> 02:13:52,730
book itself I've read it many times I've

2979
02:13:57,760 --> 02:13:55,850
copy anything I have I do not have this

2980
02:14:00,970 --> 02:13:57,770
physical copy that we're about to send

2981
02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:00,980
to your listeners mine is on in the mail

2982
02:14:05,410 --> 02:14:03,170
right now on that way here they're going

2983
02:14:06,370 --> 02:14:05,420
to get this physical copy roughly the

2984
02:14:10,120 --> 02:14:06,380
same day I do

2985
02:14:13,030 --> 02:14:10,130
there you go Meegan enjoy the book thank

2986
02:14:13,870 --> 02:14:13,040
you so much Gary thank you absolutely

2987
02:14:16,360 --> 02:14:13,880
absolutely

2988
02:14:18,640 --> 02:14:16,370
thank you grateful I'd see that's you

2989
02:14:20,530 --> 02:14:18,650
know that's a real music and Beatles fan

2990
02:14:23,140 --> 02:14:20,540
right there yeah she's mean loved the

2991
02:14:25,150 --> 02:14:23,150
book I think I think that my greatest

2992
02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:25,160
trepidation about writing the book is

2993
02:14:30,070 --> 02:14:27,530
that you can't take anything for granted

2994
02:14:33,100 --> 02:14:30,080
you can't talk down to anybody everybody

2995
02:14:35,740 --> 02:14:33,110
knows their stuff and but the only one

2996
02:14:37,840 --> 02:14:35,750
thing I will say to everybody is look if

2997
02:14:39,250 --> 02:14:37,850
you get 12 Beatles fans in a room and

2998
02:14:41,770 --> 02:14:39,260
ask him what would have happened if the

2999
02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:41,780
Beatles kept playing together you get 12

3000
02:14:45,610 --> 02:14:44,090
different opinions and and the only

3001
02:14:49,690 --> 02:14:45,620
thing probably everybody would agree on

3002
02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:49,700
is that I'm wrong so I III all I can say

3003
02:14:55,240 --> 02:14:52,490
is I've done two I've given one version

3004
02:14:57,190 --> 02:14:55,250
in one alternative universe this is what

3005
02:14:58,840 --> 02:14:57,200
happened everybody else may have their

3006
02:15:01,360 --> 02:14:58,850
own alternate but you know we all

3007
02:15:03,940 --> 02:15:01,370
respect each other's three to three a

3008
02:15:06,450 --> 02:15:03,950
two five five zero four or five three

3009
02:15:09,910 --> 02:15:06,460
two three a two five five zero four five

3010
02:15:12,010 --> 02:15:09,920
and just make the questions good and

3011
02:15:13,300 --> 02:15:12,020
we'll get you the first copies of the

3012
02:15:14,950 --> 02:15:13,310
book when they're released just in a

3013
02:15:18,310 --> 02:15:14,960
couple of weeks actually that's coming

3014
02:15:22,090 --> 02:15:18,320
out what about what about the Paula's

3015
02:15:25,480 --> 02:15:22,100
dead aspect well that happened in 1969

3016
02:15:27,310 --> 02:15:25,490
and you know the reality is there was no

3017
02:15:30,460 --> 02:15:27,320
reality to that it was just a disc

3018
02:15:32,080 --> 02:15:30,470
jockey in Wisconsin as I recall who sort

3019
02:15:33,900 --> 02:15:32,090
of made it up and then it it was one of

3020
02:15:36,460 --> 02:15:33,910
the first things that went viral and

3021
02:15:39,850 --> 02:15:36,470
it's a good example and I'm glad you

3022
02:15:43,180 --> 02:15:39,860
asked that all of the those kinds of

3023
02:15:45,910 --> 02:15:43,190
things still happen in the book but

3024
02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:45,920
they're impacted by where the Beatles

3025
02:15:49,300 --> 02:15:47,690
are in their own sight

3026
02:15:52,290 --> 02:15:49,310
he's about playing together and all that

3027
02:15:55,030 --> 02:15:52,300
so things things that I can't change I

3028
02:15:57,790 --> 02:15:55,040
accept and I bend and twist them in this

3029
02:16:00,220 --> 02:15:57,800
book so that would be one of them you

3030
02:16:02,860 --> 02:16:00,230
will read some pages about Paul being

3031
02:16:07,600 --> 02:16:02,870
dead but in a different context than in

3032
02:16:10,900 --> 02:16:07,610
our world the I thought that the case

3033
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:10,910
was pretty strong for pulping dead Paul

3034
02:16:17,140 --> 02:16:13,370
being dead if you are going to what

3035
02:16:20,380 --> 02:16:17,150
would look okay I know I know well look

3036
02:16:23,050 --> 02:16:20,390
I'm open-minded I really am

3037
02:16:26,229 --> 02:16:23,060
and certainly the world was not as it

3038
02:16:29,530 --> 02:16:26,239
seems right so I I lived my life by that

3039
02:16:32,860 --> 02:16:29,540
I try to figure out things I am NOT I do

3040
02:16:34,750 --> 02:16:32,870
not by what they are selling so when but

3041
02:16:36,700 --> 02:16:34,760
when that came out and I started to look

3042
02:16:39,759 --> 02:16:36,710
at the evidence that the you know the

3043
02:16:42,549 --> 02:16:39,769
scar and the lip the album covers the

3044
02:16:44,379 --> 02:16:42,559
arguments the driving in his car where

3045
02:16:49,299 --> 02:16:44,389
it happened you know that's a pretty

3046
02:16:53,679 --> 02:16:49,309
broad hoax and play I thought the case

3047
02:16:56,890 --> 02:16:53,689
had merit well I mean well god bless you

3048
02:16:59,589 --> 02:16:56,900
and we're still great friends I don't

3049
02:17:02,110 --> 02:16:59,599
think it had merit in that I we know how

3050
02:17:05,350 --> 02:17:02,120
it started it was just a guy who you

3051
02:17:07,870 --> 02:17:05,360
know blew smoke and and it caught on and

3052
02:17:11,919 --> 02:17:07,880
then most of the things that you cite

3053
02:17:14,620 --> 02:17:11,929
were fans sort of throwing you know you

3054
02:17:16,929 --> 02:17:14,630
know logs on that particular fire but

3055
02:17:18,820 --> 02:17:16,939
again what's great about you know being

3056
02:17:23,140 --> 02:17:18,830
able to do this alternate history book

3057
02:17:25,570 --> 02:17:23,150
is it's not my job to win an argument

3058
02:17:28,030 --> 02:17:25,580
about whether Paul died or didn't die I

3059
02:17:30,370 --> 02:17:28,040
mean I don't believe he died but and he

3060
02:17:33,310 --> 02:17:30,380
doesn't actually die in this book but

3061
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:33,320
you know I'm a I'm a dramatist I could

3062
02:17:37,150 --> 02:17:35,210
write a movie about Paul being dead and

3063
02:17:38,650 --> 02:17:37,160
it wouldn't bother me but that's not

3064
02:17:38,950 --> 02:17:38,660
what this book is I guess is all I'm

3065
02:17:41,440 --> 02:17:38,960
saying

3066
02:17:44,469 --> 02:17:41,450
now what about the other controversy who

3067
02:17:51,230 --> 02:17:44,479
is a better singer Ringo Starr or Linda

3068
02:17:57,780 --> 02:17:52,770
[Music]

3069
02:18:01,320 --> 02:17:57,790
yeah you know listen see I'm a I love

3070
02:18:05,910 --> 02:18:01,330
Ringo and and I think that on certain

3071
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:05,920
songs he he's his essence is is perfect

3072
02:18:12,990 --> 02:18:10,330
and so I'm a I'm a huge fan and and you

3073
02:18:15,570 --> 02:18:13,000
know I can't imagine it don't cut I've

3074
02:18:17,759 --> 02:18:15,580
heard it don't come easy done by George

3075
02:18:20,310 --> 02:18:17,769
Harrison who wrote it and I've heard it

3076
02:18:20,730 --> 02:18:20,320
done by Ringo and he belongs as a Ringo

3077
02:18:24,360 --> 02:18:20,740
song

3078
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:24,370
er me yeah and in Linda you know I'm not

3079
02:18:32,040 --> 02:18:29,280
getting a pile on Linda McCartney but I

3080
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:32,050
because she had some musical abilities

3081
02:18:37,830 --> 02:18:35,110
and and and she'd you know Paul didn't

3082
02:18:40,110 --> 02:18:37,840
force her to the forefront in quite the

3083
02:18:43,770 --> 02:18:40,120
same way John forced Yoko to the

3084
02:18:45,390 --> 02:18:43,780
forefront right John and Yoko put

3085
02:18:48,680 --> 02:18:45,400
themselves out there and said take your

3086
02:18:52,440 --> 02:18:48,690
best shot Paul who had more commercial

3087
02:18:55,140 --> 02:18:52,450
you know interests in mind I tried to

3088
02:18:59,100 --> 02:18:55,150
cast his wife in a slightly different

3089
02:19:01,320 --> 02:18:59,110
way in his band and and you know I think

3090
02:19:03,810 --> 02:19:01,330
many McCartney and wings songs you hear

3091
02:19:06,209 --> 02:19:03,820
you'll hear Linda in it and it doesn't

3092
02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:06,219
detract I don't think yeah some say that

3093
02:19:12,030 --> 02:19:08,530
Yoko was a better drummer than Ringo

3094
02:19:15,629 --> 02:19:12,040
though I did are you serious I don't I

3095
02:19:20,190 --> 02:19:15,639
mean I don't think I mean I'll tell you

3096
02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:20,200
why it is massive and I 68 Ringo left

3097
02:19:25,980 --> 02:19:22,690
the you know during the White Album

3098
02:19:28,440 --> 02:19:25,990
sessions he left he quit the band and

3099
02:19:30,509 --> 02:19:28,450
left and all the Beatles all three of

3100
02:19:34,890 --> 02:19:30,519
the beatles tried to do the drums on

3101
02:19:37,680 --> 02:19:34,900
back in the USSR right they all sucked

3102
02:19:39,509 --> 02:19:37,690
pretty bad and they begged Ringo to come

3103
02:19:41,129 --> 02:19:39,519
back he came back and Paul made sure

3104
02:19:42,990 --> 02:19:41,139
that his drum set was decorated with

3105
02:19:45,390 --> 02:19:43,000
flowers and they welcomed him with open

3106
02:19:49,800 --> 02:19:45,400
arms have you ever seen the video of

3107
02:19:52,230 --> 02:19:49,810
Chuck Berry and John Lennon uh with ring

3108
02:19:54,570 --> 02:19:52,240
with uh with Yoko in the background with

3109
02:19:57,210 --> 02:19:54,580
the cowbell have you seen that is that

3110
02:19:59,450 --> 02:19:57,220
where more cowbell comes from and Chuck

3111
02:20:02,461 --> 02:19:59,460
Berry

3112
02:20:06,450 --> 02:20:02,471
yohko tries to sing or you know does

3113
02:20:09,770 --> 02:20:06,460
something and and and walks over chucks

3114
02:20:12,390 --> 02:20:09,780
part right and Chuck shoots her a look

3115
02:20:14,190 --> 02:20:12,400
you don't look that you don't want to

3116
02:20:18,171 --> 02:20:14,200
get from Chuck Berry yeah you don't want

3117
02:20:20,970 --> 02:20:18,181
to get that she's a controversial person

3118
02:20:23,511 --> 02:20:20,980
although I think she does very well in

3119
02:20:27,870 --> 02:20:23,521
the book that I've written because

3120
02:20:30,570 --> 02:20:27,880
because I do believe that while I'm not

3121
02:20:32,581 --> 02:20:30,580
prepared to be the prosecutor who waves

3122
02:20:35,820 --> 02:20:32,591
a finger and blames her for breaking up

3123
02:20:38,671 --> 02:20:35,830
the Beatles I do believe that she had

3124
02:20:41,850 --> 02:20:38,681
the ability to be a constructive force

3125
02:20:44,490 --> 02:20:41,860
had she wished to so I've tried to I

3126
02:20:45,990 --> 02:20:44,500
tried to lean into the better angels of

3127
02:20:49,501 --> 02:20:46,000
her nature and see how that would work

3128
02:20:53,370 --> 02:20:49,511
out are you suggesting in your

3129
02:20:57,450 --> 02:20:53,380
alternative history book here that she

3130
02:21:00,060 --> 02:20:57,460
kept the beatles together no I mean I

3131
02:21:01,860 --> 02:21:00,070
might listen part of me as an author

3132
02:21:03,331 --> 02:21:01,870
needs to keep a little suspense in the

3133
02:21:06,331 --> 02:21:03,341
whole thing so I guess I could just say

3134
02:21:09,180 --> 02:21:06,341
I'm not at liberty to tell you but uh

3135
02:21:12,660 --> 02:21:09,190
what I have done is tried to give

3136
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:12,670
everybody a place in the Sun at some

3137
02:21:17,251 --> 02:21:15,610
time in the book to to to be a slightly

3138
02:21:19,860 --> 02:21:17,261
different person than they were in the

3139
02:21:21,810 --> 02:21:19,870
world that we understood but something's

3140
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:21,820
still within character so I think you'll

3141
02:21:29,700 --> 02:21:24,610
see Yoko

3142
02:21:31,620 --> 02:21:29,710
you know light that slightly will enable

3143
02:21:34,740 --> 02:21:31,630
you to feel maybe a little better about

3144
02:21:36,961 --> 02:21:34,750
her did you okay so we all know about

3145
02:21:39,810 --> 02:21:36,971
the phases that the Beatles went through

3146
02:21:43,560 --> 02:21:39,820
and most people don't realize if they

3147
02:21:46,620 --> 02:21:43,570
did it in a few very short years yes you

3148
02:21:48,900 --> 02:21:46,630
know the time between meet the Beatles

3149
02:21:51,060 --> 02:21:48,910
and and Sergeant Pepper in the White

3150
02:21:53,211 --> 02:21:51,070
Album or you know it's five six years

3151
02:21:56,041 --> 02:21:53,221
yeah I mean they transform themselves

3152
02:22:02,251 --> 02:21:56,051
transform the music industry in general

3153
02:22:04,921 --> 02:22:02,261
right so but so in going into 1975 did

3154
02:22:05,551 --> 02:22:04,931
they do disco no don't have them doing

3155
02:22:08,240 --> 02:22:05,561
disco

3156
02:22:11,490 --> 02:22:08,250
but even McCartney in our world

3157
02:22:12,600 --> 02:22:11,500
experimented with disco like riffs yes

3158
02:22:14,041 --> 02:22:12,610
because

3159
02:22:15,631 --> 02:22:14,051
he was trying to you know he's always

3160
02:22:17,791 --> 02:22:15,641
been a good guy about that he's always

3161
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:17,801
tried to reflect our times and things

3162
02:22:22,801 --> 02:22:19,570
like that and that's why we love him I

3163
02:22:26,041 --> 02:22:22,811
think I think he tried a little bit of

3164
02:22:29,251 --> 02:22:26,051
that it certainly did he did and and and

3165
02:22:31,801 --> 02:22:29,261
then said it's really not him and so he

3166
02:22:33,660 --> 02:22:31,811
didn't pursue it much further I don't I

3167
02:22:35,730 --> 02:22:33,670
don't have the Beatles becoming a disco

3168
02:22:38,400 --> 02:22:35,740
band that would be see that's the kind

3169
02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:38,410
of silliness that I've seen people try

3170
02:22:44,011 --> 02:22:41,200
to portray and their speculations I

3171
02:22:46,680 --> 02:22:44,021
didn't go there I didn't go there but

3172
02:22:48,270 --> 02:22:46,690
they did they did do another phase

3173
02:22:50,461 --> 02:22:48,280
though you don't have to tell me what

3174
02:22:53,850 --> 02:22:50,471
that they know Beatles I mean the

3175
02:22:56,160 --> 02:22:53,860
Beatles are always an evolutionary rock

3176
02:22:58,740 --> 02:22:56,170
group and in fact I guess I would put it

3177
02:23:00,511 --> 02:22:58,750
this way you have let's talk about these

3178
02:23:02,700 --> 02:23:00,521
distinct phases distinct phase number

3179
02:23:04,680 --> 02:23:02,710
one is Beatle mania that's when the guys

3180
02:23:05,970 --> 02:23:04,690
with the suits come to America and

3181
02:23:08,301 --> 02:23:05,980
everybody loves them that's Beatle mania

3182
02:23:12,810 --> 02:23:08,311
then the second phase is psychedelia

3183
02:23:17,310 --> 02:23:12,820
right where they start taking drugs and

3184
02:23:19,740 --> 02:23:17,320
acid and and and doing Sgt pepper's and

3185
02:23:23,430 --> 02:23:19,750
magical mystery tour and all that I

3186
02:23:26,761 --> 02:23:23,440
think I could argue that there is

3187
02:23:30,390 --> 02:23:26,771
another phase in a continuing Beatles

3188
02:23:34,070 --> 02:23:30,400
that would be more like rock band where

3189
02:23:36,570 --> 02:23:34,080
they matured beyond psychedelia and

3190
02:23:39,211 --> 02:23:36,580
they're better musicians than ever

3191
02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:39,221
before and they can do anything they

3192
02:23:44,700 --> 02:23:42,880
want and they probably would do it in a

3193
02:23:46,860 --> 02:23:44,710
way that would blow everybody else away

3194
02:23:49,410 --> 02:23:46,870
and that's kind of what I leaned into I

3195
02:23:51,740 --> 02:23:49,420
want to thank you Bryce for coming on

3196
02:23:53,430 --> 02:23:51,750
just a great fantastic show and

3197
02:23:54,320 --> 02:23:53,440
conversation just thank you for

3198
02:23:56,910 --> 02:23:54,330
everything

3199
02:23:59,041 --> 02:23:56,920
you're gonna be at the International UFO

3200
02:24:00,570 --> 02:23:59,051
Congress and that's coming up in

3201
02:24:03,870 --> 02:24:00,580
February yes

3202
02:24:05,480 --> 02:24:03,880
in Phoenix it's always a good time as

3203
02:24:07,980 --> 02:24:05,490
the Beatles would say a good time

3204
02:24:10,020 --> 02:24:07,990
guaranteed for all yeah that's a no joke

3205
02:24:14,310 --> 02:24:10,030
conference out there but what about

3206
02:24:15,870 --> 02:24:14,320
television and and films you've got one

3207
02:24:17,640 --> 02:24:15,880
film that will be in production next

3208
02:24:20,430 --> 02:24:17,650
year do you have any TV series coming

3209
02:24:23,341 --> 02:24:20,440
out real quickly we are shooting next

3210
02:24:25,200 --> 02:24:23,351
year in Europe a feature film big-budget

3211
02:24:26,430 --> 02:24:25,210
feature film called the last battle that

3212
02:24:28,170 --> 02:24:26,440
is the true store

3213
02:24:30,870 --> 02:24:28,180
of the last battle of world war ii in

3214
02:24:32,881 --> 02:24:30,880
europe it's the only time we Germans and

3215
02:24:34,830 --> 02:24:32,891
Americans ever fought together it's one

3216
02:24:36,420 --> 02:24:34,840
hell of a film it's being directed by

3217
02:24:39,900 --> 02:24:36,430
Peter Landis Minh who directed

3218
02:24:41,400 --> 02:24:39,910
concussion so that's coming up and one

3219
02:24:43,950 --> 02:24:41,410
of the things I'm hoping to do in

3220
02:24:47,310 --> 02:24:43,960
success if the Beatles book is a success

3221
02:24:49,500 --> 02:24:47,320
the the book series of break point which

3222
02:24:52,140 --> 02:24:49,510
currently is the what if about Kennedy

3223
02:24:53,790 --> 02:24:52,150
you know what if JFK calm and the

3224
02:24:58,440 --> 02:24:53,800
Beatles won what if the beetle you know

3225
02:25:01,460 --> 02:24:58,450
what if beetles calm those two what-ifs

3226
02:25:04,051 --> 02:25:01,470
form the essence of what would be a

3227
02:25:05,910 --> 02:25:04,061
anthological television series so one

3228
02:25:07,890 --> 02:25:05,920
season you might do the Beatles and the

3229
02:25:09,150 --> 02:25:07,900
next season you might do JFK and then

3230
02:25:10,950 --> 02:25:09,160
the next season you might do something

3231
02:25:14,490 --> 02:25:10,960
else so that's one of the things I'm

3232
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:14,500
pushing forward and you know I worked on

3233
02:25:20,400 --> 02:25:18,010
lower this year which is the podcast

3234
02:25:22,381 --> 02:25:20,410
that Amazon's turned into a TV series

3235
02:25:24,570 --> 02:25:22,391
and and I'm you know in the world of

3236
02:25:27,270 --> 02:25:24,580
UFOs we didn't get a chance to talk

3237
02:25:29,520 --> 02:25:27,280
about it but I'm I'm working on the

3238
02:25:31,680 --> 02:25:29,530
Betty and Barney Hill story captured as

3239
02:25:34,051 --> 02:25:31,690
a feature film and I'm also working on

3240
02:25:36,060 --> 02:25:34,061
the story of the race to break the

3241
02:25:39,230 --> 02:25:36,070
Roswell story between Stanton Friedman

3242
02:25:42,030 --> 02:25:39,240
and Don Schmitt and that's called

3243
02:25:43,440 --> 02:25:42,040
unidentified yeah I forgot I can't

3244
02:25:46,350 --> 02:25:43,450
believe we didn't even get into that

3245
02:25:51,390 --> 02:25:46,360
tonight but that is a story right there

3246
02:25:52,890 --> 02:25:51,400
the Don Schmitt that that Foofa that'll

3247
02:25:56,070 --> 02:25:52,900
gonna be really really really really

3248
02:26:01,591 --> 02:25:56,080
really good I can't imagine what it was

3249
02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:01,601
like in in 1980 when the feeling of this

3250
02:26:08,310 --> 02:26:03,250
the feeling the word on the street that

3251
02:26:11,761 --> 02:26:08,320
this was actually a reales well and what

3252
02:26:13,650 --> 02:26:11,771
was going on in in New Mexico at that

3253
02:26:16,140 --> 02:26:13,660
time it just must have been absolutely

3254
02:26:20,310 --> 02:26:16,150
yes and and you know leave you with this

3255
02:26:23,011 --> 02:26:20,320
thought I mean growing up even if you

3256
02:26:24,631 --> 02:26:23,021
believed in UFOs the last thing you

3257
02:26:26,820 --> 02:26:24,641
believed in is that any of them were

3258
02:26:29,250 --> 02:26:26,830
crashing anywhere you just did not

3259
02:26:31,530 --> 02:26:29,260
believe in UFO crashes that sounded like

3260
02:26:34,020 --> 02:26:31,540
a bridge too far so the fact that

3261
02:26:37,440 --> 02:26:34,030
Roswell is widely accepted as a true

3262
02:26:39,390 --> 02:26:37,450
event right now is a phenomenal change

3263
02:26:42,450 --> 02:26:39,400
in the whole

3264
02:26:47,041 --> 02:26:42,460
history and how we got there is largely

3265
02:26:49,350 --> 02:26:47,051
because of the fantastic commitment that

3266
02:26:51,810 --> 02:26:49,360
people like Don Schmitt and his partners

3267
02:26:54,240 --> 02:26:51,820
and and Stanton Friedman and many other

3268
02:26:56,490 --> 02:26:54,250
researchers all gave to breaking this

3269
02:26:58,680 --> 02:26:56,500
story and we owe them a huge debt of

3270
02:27:00,751 --> 02:26:58,690
gratitude who's gonna play Don Schmidt

3271
02:27:04,051 --> 02:27:00,761
that's kind of being some young dashing

3272
02:27:05,551 --> 02:27:04,061
guy with great hair it will be uh you

3273
02:27:06,990 --> 02:27:05,561
know one of the things people always

3274
02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:07,000
play that game I've certainly spent

3275
02:27:11,881 --> 02:27:09,250
hours playing it and I've even played it

3276
02:27:14,461 --> 02:27:11,891
with Don Schmidt I think what will

3277
02:27:16,591 --> 02:27:14,471
happen is when the film actually sells

3278
02:27:18,631 --> 02:27:16,601
that's when we'll find out because the

3279
02:27:22,110 --> 02:27:18,641
way Hollywood works is it is until the

3280
02:27:23,940 --> 02:27:22,120
film is actually set up and going toward

3281
02:27:26,520 --> 02:27:23,950
production that they start casting and

3282
02:27:29,280 --> 02:27:26,530
the director these days is the

3283
02:27:31,740 --> 02:27:29,290
all-powerful Wizard of Oz on that stuff

3284
02:27:33,541 --> 02:27:31,750
so the director will decide although you

3285
02:27:35,041 --> 02:27:33,551
know we've gone through a number of

3286
02:27:37,770 --> 02:27:35,051
different people who do you think should

3287
02:27:40,291 --> 02:27:37,780
play dodge me well I would say me ten

3288
02:27:42,511 --> 02:27:40,301
years ago I'd be a shoo-in but well

3289
02:27:44,640 --> 02:27:42,521
let's face it you me and Don Schmidt all

3290
02:27:46,801 --> 02:27:44,650
have that beard so we're all like that

3291
02:27:48,930 --> 02:27:46,811
we're the triplets here you know what I

3292
02:27:51,900 --> 02:27:48,940
would like to read for bill Moore's part

3293
02:27:54,301 --> 02:27:51,910
though listen man I'll bring you in

3294
02:27:55,980 --> 02:27:54,311
I'll bring you I I can't make the

3295
02:27:58,560 --> 02:27:55,990
director like you but I'll bring you

3296
02:27:59,610 --> 02:27:58,570
thank you so much what I look forward to

3297
02:28:01,501 --> 02:27:59,620
all of it

3298
02:28:03,841 --> 02:28:01,511
best of luck and I can't wait to get you

3299
02:28:07,110 --> 02:28:03,851
back on thank you so much all right good

3300
02:28:08,791 --> 02:28:07,120
night you got it Brice Zabel everybody

3301
02:28:11,610 --> 02:28:08,801
always a great conversation

3302
02:28:14,551 --> 02:28:11,620
Brice Abel calm all of the links are

3303
02:28:16,470 --> 02:28:14,561
over at a Jimmy Church radio.com and I'm

3304
02:28:18,690 --> 02:28:16,480
gonna keep the phone lines open I'm

3305
02:28:20,940 --> 02:28:18,700
sorry I ignored the phone lines because

3306
02:28:23,011 --> 02:28:20,950
the conversation was correct and when

3307
02:28:25,261 --> 02:28:23,021
the conversation is right I just do that

3308
02:28:27,060 --> 02:28:25,271
but we'll continue to to give away books

3309
02:28:29,881 --> 02:28:27,070
right now three two three eight two five

3310
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five zero four five or three two three

3311
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3312
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this is fade to black I'm yours Jimmy

3313
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Church thank you so much Brice Abel I'll

3314
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be right back cyber blaze everybody's

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for a minute your age getting old has

3364
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its perks but remember being a few years

3365
02:31:40,120 --> 02:31:37,910
younger you know your hair was thicker

3366
02:31:42,189 --> 02:31:40,130
you didn't have so many wrinkles that

3367
02:31:44,410 --> 02:31:42,199
extra weight wasn't haunting you and you

3368
02:31:46,570 --> 02:31:44,420
just felt better well we can't turn back

3369
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the clocks and go back 10 or 15 years

3370
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3390
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3391
02:33:10,190 --> 02:33:08,490
all right welcome back fade to black I

3392
02:33:15,530 --> 02:33:10,200
want to thank price able for coming in

3393
02:33:18,530 --> 02:33:15,540
brought is a game tonight follow me on

3394
02:33:21,440 --> 02:33:18,540
twitter @ JT radio you can follow paulo

3395
02:33:24,621 --> 02:33:21,450
bryce at cyberblades it's at bryce Abel

3396
02:33:30,291 --> 02:33:24,631
his name is cyber blaze on Twitter but

3397
02:33:32,060 --> 02:33:30,301
it is refreshing the two have Bryce I

3398
02:33:35,270 --> 02:33:32,070
remember I think it was last year or the

3399
02:33:37,881 --> 02:33:35,280
year before we were in Roswell and and

3400
02:33:41,030 --> 02:33:37,891
Bryce was there just hanging out at the

3401
02:33:42,860 --> 02:33:41,040
conference and it is refreshing to know

3402
02:33:50,291 --> 02:33:42,870
that we have somebody like Bryce in our

3403
02:33:52,520 --> 02:33:50,301
corner he is part of Hollywood his his

3404
02:33:54,051 --> 02:33:52,530
credentials when it comes to the

3405
02:33:56,930 --> 02:33:54,061
entertainment industry are second to

3406
02:33:59,001 --> 02:33:56,940
none I mean he's done all of it but he

3407
02:34:02,450 --> 02:33:59,011
knows what's going on

3408
02:34:04,280 --> 02:34:02,460
and that story that he told about you

3409
02:34:06,230 --> 02:34:04,290
know the party that he did at his house

3410
02:34:10,430 --> 02:34:06,240
for a dark skies when it was released

3411
02:34:14,030 --> 02:34:10,440
and to have this party crasher show up

3412
02:34:16,730 --> 02:34:14,040
and you know men and black tie tie I

3413
02:34:20,001 --> 02:34:16,740
think I asked him once if he was dressed

3414
02:34:23,421 --> 02:34:20,011
as some men in black but but how that

3415
02:34:24,770 --> 02:34:23,431
story elevated and then you know he got

3416
02:34:27,831 --> 02:34:24,780
read in and he got a two-hour

3417
02:34:31,700 --> 02:34:27,841
presentation and then declines the offer

3418
02:34:34,461 --> 02:34:31,710
to meet the big guy the boss in a

3419
02:34:39,621 --> 02:34:34,471
cemetery in Long Beach at midnight oh

3420
02:34:42,860 --> 02:34:39,631
man what just absolutely extraordinary

3421
02:34:46,461 --> 02:34:42,870
anyway Bryce Abel is the best and I do

3422
02:34:49,190 --> 02:34:46,471
have two more copies of the book his new

3423
02:34:52,730 --> 02:34:49,200
book about the Beatles to give away and

3424
02:34:55,461 --> 02:34:52,740
I'll keep the phone lines open we'll

3425
02:35:03,650 --> 02:34:55,471
switch things over to open lines 3 2 3 8

3426
02:35:05,060 --> 02:35:03,660
2 5 5 0 4 5 or 3 2 3 2 75 9 6 9 5 some

3427
02:35:09,251 --> 02:35:05,070
of the things that we were talking about

3428
02:35:13,551 --> 02:35:09,261
tonight this is what concerns me about

3429
02:35:16,871 --> 02:35:13,561
what's going on in Hollywood here and if

3430
02:35:18,990 --> 02:35:16,881
the media is handling this correctly the

3431
02:35:23,970 --> 02:35:19,000
success of how

3432
02:35:26,340 --> 02:35:23,980
of cards and the amount of fans and and

3433
02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:26,350
how many people watched that show it's

3434
02:35:32,400 --> 02:35:29,530
an extraordinarily large number and then

3435
02:35:35,250 --> 02:35:32,410
to turn around and and Spacey

3436
02:35:41,370 --> 02:35:35,260
you know had his fans think you know and

3437
02:35:45,300 --> 02:35:41,380
it's how how emotions you know they get

3438
02:35:49,530 --> 02:35:45,310
charged up and how quickly I mean how

3439
02:35:50,550 --> 02:35:49,540
quickly and effectively he is now been

3440
02:35:55,110 --> 02:35:50,560
erased

3441
02:35:57,930 --> 02:35:55,120
you know Netflix I posted this I I don't

3442
02:36:02,270 --> 02:35:57,940
know if I use the right words but you

3443
02:36:05,370 --> 02:36:02,280
know to say that Netflix drop kicked him

3444
02:36:08,550 --> 02:36:05,380
before now this is this is where things

3445
02:36:12,960 --> 02:36:08,560
get a little sketchy here for me you

3446
02:36:15,330 --> 02:36:12,970
know no trial nothing like that I don't

3447
02:36:19,260 --> 02:36:15,340
know how he tried to defend himself or

3448
02:36:21,210 --> 02:36:19,270
if he did with the network or if they

3449
02:36:28,080 --> 02:36:21,220
didn't listen to him at all but

3450
02:36:32,010 --> 02:36:28,090
certainly the the the guilty side of it

3451
02:36:36,030 --> 02:36:32,020
just came down that was a swift swift

3452
02:36:39,650 --> 02:36:36,040
swift form of justice he had a film that

3453
02:36:45,870 --> 02:36:39,660
he was producing he was starring in

3454
02:36:52,140 --> 02:36:45,880
called gore Geor II now not about Al

3455
02:36:54,870 --> 02:36:52,150
Gore by the way but gore Vidal and it

3456
02:36:56,400 --> 02:36:54,880
was in post-production it's ready to go

3457
02:36:58,260 --> 02:36:56,410
it was ready for release

3458
02:36:59,970 --> 02:36:58,270
post-production that's it they were just

3459
02:37:01,980 --> 02:36:59,980
tightening things up finishing some

3460
02:37:04,320 --> 02:37:01,990
editing probably some special effects

3461
02:37:06,150 --> 02:37:04,330
may be getting the titling done it was

3462
02:37:09,900 --> 02:37:06,160
music you know is some post-production

3463
02:37:12,510 --> 02:37:09,910
that film will never be seen I guarantee

3464
02:37:14,580 --> 02:37:12,520
it it'll never be seen they they

3465
02:37:20,220 --> 02:37:14,590
absolutely pulled that that was a

3466
02:37:23,460 --> 02:37:20,230
Netflix film they don't want to if they

3467
02:37:25,200 --> 02:37:23,470
continue with house of cards he's

3468
02:37:26,910 --> 02:37:25,210
obviously not going to be in it but

3469
02:37:30,030 --> 02:37:26,920
they're probably gonna kill his

3470
02:37:32,790 --> 02:37:30,040
character off if they move forward to

3471
02:37:34,591 --> 02:37:32,800
finish this last season

3472
02:37:37,650 --> 02:37:34,601
there's a lot of people that are

3473
02:37:38,880 --> 02:37:37,660
employed here other actors the

3474
02:37:40,801 --> 02:37:38,890
production team

3475
02:37:46,080 --> 02:37:40,811
there are mill it's millions and

3476
02:37:48,030 --> 02:37:46,090
millions of dollars and that's you know

3477
02:37:51,030 --> 02:37:48,040
people's careers this is how they feed

3478
02:37:55,920 --> 02:37:51,040
their families to just suddenly pull the

3479
02:37:57,540 --> 02:37:55,930
plug on it my point is how quickly for

3480
02:38:00,030 --> 02:37:57,550
the fans out there that they are

3481
02:38:04,140 --> 02:38:00,040
presented this this this picture of

3482
02:38:06,060 --> 02:38:04,150
Spacey and how quick and and Zabel said

3483
02:38:08,730 --> 02:38:06,070
it I think very effectively and very

3484
02:38:13,980 --> 02:38:08,740
correctly we'll never see him again

3485
02:38:15,780 --> 02:38:13,990
that's it somebody that big incredible

3486
02:38:18,960 --> 02:38:15,790
it was same thing with Bill O'Reilly

3487
02:38:21,360 --> 02:38:18,970
Bill O'Reilly was Fox News you know

3488
02:38:24,180 --> 02:38:21,370
that's it that it in I would have

3489
02:38:29,310 --> 02:38:24,190
thought but no not me I'm saying in

3490
02:38:32,070 --> 02:38:29,320
general that ratings and and money made

3491
02:38:34,710 --> 02:38:32,080
the decisions here and I'm glad for the

3492
02:38:37,500 --> 02:38:34,720
rest of the country when it comes to

3493
02:38:40,650 --> 02:38:37,510
things like Weinstein and and Bill

3494
02:38:43,190 --> 02:38:40,660
O'Reilly and and Roger Ayers and and

3495
02:38:47,460 --> 02:38:43,200
Kevin Spacey that that you know what

3496
02:38:50,100 --> 02:38:47,470
ethics and morals come first and are not

3497
02:38:54,720 --> 02:38:50,110
driven by those two ethical decisions

3498
02:38:57,841 --> 02:38:54,730
are not driven by ratings it seems like

3499
02:39:03,720 --> 02:38:57,851
up until these last few months that that

3500
02:39:08,790 --> 02:39:03,730
was the case and it's it's it's shocking

3501
02:39:11,070 --> 02:39:08,800
to me that there are victims out there

3502
02:39:13,920 --> 02:39:11,080
that are now courageous enough to come

3503
02:39:16,440 --> 02:39:13,930
forward and speak but also and this is

3504
02:39:18,420 --> 02:39:16,450
the other part that I think is most

3505
02:39:21,150 --> 02:39:18,430
important here the conspiracy of

3506
02:39:24,600 --> 02:39:21,160
everything that is going on

3507
02:39:27,511 --> 02:39:24,610
it's the witnesses to this stuff the

3508
02:39:30,330 --> 02:39:27,521
witnesses the camera people the makeup

3509
02:39:32,610 --> 02:39:30,340
people the production assistants you

3510
02:39:35,640 --> 02:39:32,620
know the PAS that are running around on

3511
02:39:38,190 --> 02:39:35,650
the set that are victims to this or

3512
02:39:40,051 --> 02:39:38,200
witnesses to this that can't say

3513
02:39:42,360 --> 02:39:40,061
anything they can't

3514
02:39:44,970 --> 02:39:42,370
well at least they thought that they

3515
02:39:46,500 --> 02:39:44,980
couldn't because they want to get hired

3516
02:39:48,000 --> 02:39:46,510
for another series

3517
02:39:49,410 --> 02:39:48,010
they don't want to be known as somebody

3518
02:39:51,960 --> 02:39:49,420
that is out there running their mouths

3519
02:39:54,269 --> 02:39:51,970
there are things that go on on the set

3520
02:39:57,330 --> 02:39:54,279
not of a sexual nature but of anything

3521
02:39:59,040 --> 02:39:57,340
anything that is private that needs to

3522
02:40:00,719 --> 02:39:59,050
stay that way and I'm not talking about

3523
02:40:03,360 --> 02:40:00,729
the sexual so I'm talking about anything

3524
02:40:07,650 --> 02:40:03,370
it could be money it could be what

3525
02:40:10,380 --> 02:40:07,660
somebody is paid the you know you know

3526
02:40:12,809 --> 02:40:10,390
just things Center to discuss production

3527
02:40:15,690 --> 02:40:12,819
ideas the future things you know and and

3528
02:40:18,000 --> 02:40:15,700
that stuff is kept quiet and you don't

3529
02:40:20,250 --> 02:40:18,010
want to be the one known as you know

3530
02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:20,260
that has loose lips and is out there you

3531
02:40:25,800 --> 02:40:21,760
won't get hired anymore

3532
02:40:28,469 --> 02:40:25,810
so unfortunately part of this is this

3533
02:40:31,650 --> 02:40:28,479
other stuff that was going on and I'm

3534
02:40:35,370 --> 02:40:31,660
being very very very serious about this

3535
02:40:37,920 --> 02:40:35,380
Hollywood is a strange place the the

3536
02:40:42,599 --> 02:40:37,930
other part the other aspect of Hollywood

3537
02:40:44,639 --> 02:40:42,609
you go you go to a Hollywood party of

3538
02:40:50,610 --> 02:40:44,649
which I've done that a lot and you go

3539
02:40:53,010 --> 02:40:50,620
and everybody knows everybody everybody

3540
02:40:55,710 --> 02:40:53,020
knows about what who is hired on a

3541
02:40:57,420 --> 02:40:55,720
series who the producers are who the men

3542
02:41:01,440 --> 02:40:57,430
who the camera people are who you know

3543
02:41:07,110 --> 02:41:01,450
the script supervisor set designers you

3544
02:41:09,360 --> 02:41:07,120
know clothing and costuming and wardrobe

3545
02:41:10,710 --> 02:41:09,370
it everybody knows everything about

3546
02:41:14,519 --> 02:41:10,720
everything that is going on across

3547
02:41:17,700 --> 02:41:14,529
Hollywood it's a very very small

3548
02:41:19,530 --> 02:41:17,710
community it seems big when you get out

3549
02:41:22,650 --> 02:41:19,540
of it and you're out around the world

3550
02:41:26,099 --> 02:41:22,660
but here in Hollywood its small its

3551
02:41:28,530 --> 02:41:26,109
small Sony Pictures may seem big you

3552
02:41:31,410 --> 02:41:28,540
know Fox may seem big CBS Bay these are

3553
02:41:35,370 --> 02:41:31,420
big buildings and Disney and and Warner

3554
02:41:37,980 --> 02:41:35,380
Brothers they may seem big they are not

3555
02:41:40,559 --> 02:41:37,990
it's it's a very very very small

3556
02:41:44,340 --> 02:41:40,569
community um and when you get to the

3557
02:41:47,219 --> 02:41:44,350
level of of agents and executive

3558
02:41:50,639 --> 02:41:47,229
producers and and and whatnot here in

3559
02:41:53,700 --> 02:41:50,649
Hollywood when somebody goes on to a

3560
02:41:58,080 --> 02:41:53,710
project whether it's a television series

3561
02:41:59,940 --> 02:41:58,090
or it's a new film and you have you know

3562
02:42:02,700 --> 02:41:59,950
the showrunners and the way there

3563
02:42:04,950 --> 02:42:02,710
things are staffed right they go back

3564
02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:04,960
and they hire their crew and they hire

3565
02:42:10,261 --> 02:42:07,120
who you know the stunt coordinators it's

3566
02:42:13,400 --> 02:42:10,271
it's it's a way of life out here so

3567
02:42:16,591 --> 02:42:13,410
you're gonna hire who has got

3568
02:42:19,381 --> 02:42:16,601
credibility as somebody that has got a

3569
02:42:22,381 --> 02:42:19,391
reputation of being solid because you

3570
02:42:25,410 --> 02:42:22,391
put these crews together and that part

3571
02:42:28,860 --> 02:42:25,420
of it now doesn't seem so safe anymore

3572
02:42:30,841 --> 02:42:28,870
it just doesn't it's really really

3573
02:42:33,841 --> 02:42:30,851
really bizarre what is going on here in

3574
02:42:36,600 --> 02:42:33,851
Hollywood the amount of money and I need

3575
02:42:40,381 --> 02:42:36,610
to drive this home the amount of money

3576
02:42:43,410 --> 02:42:40,391
that is put together when you greenlight

3577
02:42:45,330 --> 02:42:43,420
a television series and per episode the

3578
02:42:47,070 --> 02:42:45,340
amount of money that is there that is

3579
02:42:50,250 --> 02:42:47,080
one thing and then you go down

3580
02:42:53,341 --> 02:42:50,260
underneath into the sub level of that

3581
02:42:56,310 --> 02:42:53,351
you have you have editing you have

3582
02:42:58,680 --> 02:42:56,320
special effects you have titling you

3583
02:43:01,591 --> 02:42:58,690
have the entire crew that is there

3584
02:43:03,710 --> 02:43:01,601
involved in that you have everything

3585
02:43:06,900 --> 02:43:03,720
else you have drivers and you have

3586
02:43:09,360 --> 02:43:06,910
accountants and and and the money side

3587
02:43:11,910 --> 02:43:09,370
of it that's a whole nother staff you

3588
02:43:13,381 --> 02:43:11,920
have the extras and the casting that is

3589
02:43:15,540 --> 02:43:13,391
a whole nother aspect you have the

3590
02:43:17,700 --> 02:43:15,550
writers and the rewrites and the script

3591
02:43:19,950 --> 02:43:17,710
you have that you have all of the camera

3592
02:43:23,610 --> 02:43:19,960
people the ADEs the assistant directors

3593
02:43:26,370 --> 02:43:23,620
the you have all of the B shots that are

3594
02:43:28,620 --> 02:43:26,380
done all of the extra shots of that

3595
02:43:32,100 --> 02:43:28,630
that's a whole nother aspect it is

3596
02:43:36,750 --> 02:43:32,110
incredible how big of a production that

3597
02:43:39,750 --> 02:43:36,760
is for one episode every episode of a TV

3598
02:43:42,511 --> 02:43:39,760
series has a different director they

3599
02:43:45,570 --> 02:43:42,521
have to ride that episode through right

3600
02:43:48,360 --> 02:43:45,580
you can't have the same director on 16

3601
02:43:51,690 --> 02:43:48,370
episodes it would be impossible it's not

3602
02:43:54,180 --> 02:43:51,700
the way that it works so that part of

3603
02:43:56,100 --> 02:43:54,190
Hollywood the way things are staffed and

3604
02:44:00,750 --> 02:43:56,110
the what is witnessed and what people

3605
02:44:03,171 --> 02:44:00,760
know is extraordinary and I'm telling

3606
02:44:07,320 --> 02:44:03,181
you Hollywood right now is tripping out

3607
02:44:11,460 --> 02:44:07,330
and if it continues to go down this road

3608
02:44:13,660 --> 02:44:11,470
that it is I think that it's it's good

3609
02:44:15,880 --> 02:44:13,670
for the country you know some of

3610
02:44:18,400 --> 02:44:15,890
stuff that has been going on and rumored

3611
02:44:21,100 --> 02:44:18,410
to have been going on to have it

3612
02:44:23,530 --> 02:44:21,110
actually surface it goes right back to

3613
02:44:26,590 --> 02:44:23,540
everything that I have always talked

3614
02:44:29,230 --> 02:44:26,600
about that's that's the most important

3615
02:44:33,490 --> 02:44:29,240
thing here the world is never what it

3616
02:44:36,040 --> 02:44:33,500
seems it never is it's just not you know

3617
02:44:38,980 --> 02:44:36,050
and so in this world of Hollywood just

3618
02:44:40,660 --> 02:44:38,990
like this whole fake news thing that we

3619
02:44:42,460 --> 02:44:40,670
went through over the last couple of

3620
02:44:45,400 --> 02:44:42,470
years what if the way you know what if

3621
02:44:48,070 --> 02:44:45,410
the news is fake what if you know what

3622
02:44:50,200 --> 02:44:48,080
do you trust anymore you know what what

3623
02:44:53,679 --> 02:44:50,210
is it and this part of Hollywood has

3624
02:44:56,230 --> 02:44:53,689
been rumored to exist it's been rumored

3625
02:45:00,280 --> 02:44:56,240
and it's been going on forever for a

3626
02:45:04,690 --> 02:45:00,290
hundred years this is 2017 right and now

3627
02:45:06,610 --> 02:45:04,700
it is out in the open you know it's it's

3628
02:45:10,210 --> 02:45:06,620
extraordinary times that we live in

3629
02:45:14,620 --> 02:45:10,220
it's extraordinary times and and once

3630
02:45:17,440 --> 02:45:14,630
that fear factor is removed you know I'm

3631
02:45:19,120 --> 02:45:17,450
not going to have repercussions I can go

3632
02:45:22,300 --> 02:45:19,130
ahead and talk about this on the record

3633
02:45:25,900 --> 02:45:22,310
and it's not just the victims that's one

3634
02:45:29,440 --> 02:45:25,910
part of it but it's the witnesses to

3635
02:45:32,860 --> 02:45:29,450
this stuff that have been forced to stay

3636
02:45:36,460 --> 02:45:32,870
quiet it's it's gonna get pretty out of

3637
02:45:39,070 --> 02:45:36,470
control here over the next next few

3638
02:45:41,590 --> 02:45:39,080
months and and in the next few years you

3639
02:45:45,250 --> 02:45:41,600
just watch Hollywood and that one of the

3640
02:45:47,980 --> 02:45:45,260
reasons why I talk about this kind of

3641
02:45:50,410 --> 02:45:47,990
stuff it's not the story up front just

3642
02:45:52,960 --> 02:45:50,420
like Bryce was referring to here it's

3643
02:45:55,960 --> 02:45:52,970
not the story up front that's the

3644
02:45:58,000 --> 02:45:55,970
obvious stuff it's what's going on in

3645
02:46:00,160 --> 02:45:58,010
the background it's the why it's the

3646
02:46:03,010 --> 02:46:00,170
conspiracy of it it is how it's been

3647
02:46:04,719 --> 02:46:03,020
hidden that's the other that's that's

3648
02:46:08,560 --> 02:46:04,729
the part that's the real part of the

3649
02:46:12,370 --> 02:46:08,570
story for me and and to have this start

3650
02:46:14,650 --> 02:46:12,380
to unravel here in LA you must

3651
02:46:17,320 --> 02:46:14,660
understand something we have a few

3652
02:46:19,630 --> 02:46:17,330
industries here there's no car industry

3653
02:46:21,940 --> 02:46:19,640
you know there's no there used to be an

3654
02:46:23,590 --> 02:46:21,950
airplane industry these two bill

3655
02:46:27,610 --> 02:46:23,600
McDonnell Douglas wrote it that's all

3656
02:46:30,670 --> 02:46:27,620
it's all done the the industry that

3657
02:46:34,091 --> 02:46:30,680
here in Hollywood in in Los Angeles is

3658
02:46:38,740 --> 02:46:34,101
entertainment pick your city Santa

3659
02:46:42,570 --> 02:46:38,750
Monica Sherman Oaks Studio City Burbank

3660
02:46:46,960 --> 02:46:42,580
Hollywood North Hollywood Los Angeles

3661
02:46:50,700 --> 02:46:46,970
these communities here Brentwood these

3662
02:46:53,740 --> 02:46:50,710
communities are all entertainment based

3663
02:46:57,011 --> 02:46:53,750
every other house that you look at every

3664
02:46:59,560 --> 02:46:57,021
other apartment that you drive by here

3665
02:47:04,330 --> 02:46:59,570
is somebody that is in the entertainment

3666
02:47:10,420 --> 02:47:04,340
industry everybody we are talking about

3667
02:47:12,610 --> 02:47:10,430
millions millions it it is so when when

3668
02:47:14,230 --> 02:47:12,620
I'm talking about it here this is this

3669
02:47:17,530 --> 02:47:14,240
everybody is affected by it

3670
02:47:19,420 --> 02:47:17,540
everybody here it is pretty crazy what

3671
02:47:22,570 --> 02:47:19,430
is going on here today in Hollywood the

3672
02:47:27,640 --> 02:47:22,580
conspiracy is big and it's wide now the

3673
02:47:29,890 --> 02:47:27,650
question is this and Bryce is no longer

3674
02:47:34,450 --> 02:47:29,900
here so I'll talk about the other part

3675
02:47:35,860 --> 02:47:34,460
of this there has been rumors out here

3676
02:47:40,091 --> 02:47:35,870
for years

3677
02:47:43,180 --> 02:47:40,101
about crazy circles of people about

3678
02:47:47,110 --> 02:47:43,190
producers and directors and studio heads

3679
02:47:49,180 --> 02:47:47,120
that I'm not gonna name names I don't

3680
02:47:52,301 --> 02:47:49,190
even know the names I never hung out I

3681
02:47:55,060 --> 02:47:52,311
never done and no no I don't have any

3682
02:47:57,640 --> 02:47:55,070
direct access I'm talking about the

3683
02:47:58,930 --> 02:47:57,650
stories that have been going on out here

3684
02:48:02,110 --> 02:47:58,940
forever

3685
02:48:04,570 --> 02:48:02,120
crazy dark things and I've brought up

3686
02:48:06,070 --> 02:48:04,580
Corey Haim Corey Feldman is talking

3687
02:48:08,970 --> 02:48:06,080
about some crazy things today they were

3688
02:48:13,600 --> 02:48:08,980
friends they did movies together

3689
02:48:16,630 --> 02:48:13,610
crazy crazy dark sinister things and the

3690
02:48:20,740 --> 02:48:16,640
question is how much of that is going to

3691
02:48:22,870 --> 02:48:20,750
get unraveled that's that's where I'm

3692
02:48:25,511 --> 02:48:22,880
going there there's a whole other side

3693
02:48:28,600 --> 02:48:25,521
of this where if the dominoes start to

3694
02:48:32,030 --> 02:48:28,610
fall and people start to talk it's gonna

3695
02:48:35,960 --> 02:48:32,040
be it's gonna be crazy town

3696
02:48:38,960 --> 02:48:35,970
one person Falls one person and it is

3697
02:48:40,580 --> 02:48:38,970
going to get out of control and we are

3698
02:48:43,330 --> 02:48:40,590
on the verge of that here I'm telling

3699
02:48:49,000 --> 02:48:43,340
you man Hollywood is nervous right now

3700
02:48:51,679 --> 02:48:49,010
nervous and the victims out there that

3701
02:48:53,750 --> 02:48:51,689
that have been silenced one way or

3702
02:48:58,040 --> 02:48:53,760
another whether it is money or through a

3703
02:49:00,950 --> 02:48:58,050
career or maybe they are unemployed and

3704
02:49:03,620 --> 02:49:00,960
haven't been heard from in years you

3705
02:49:06,200 --> 02:49:03,630
know if if something happens in some

3706
02:49:08,389 --> 02:49:06,210
evidence surfaces there is some crazy

3707
02:49:10,370 --> 02:49:08,399
stuff that's about to go down you know

3708
02:49:13,809 --> 02:49:10,380
and the rumors have always been there

3709
02:49:17,780 --> 02:49:13,819
the rumors have always been there Wow

3710
02:49:20,809 --> 02:49:17,790
craziness absolutely crazy all right let

3711
02:49:24,230 --> 02:49:20,819
me get to some of the news that you may

3712
02:49:27,050 --> 02:49:24,240
know absolutely nothing about but and

3713
02:49:31,090 --> 02:49:27,060
one of the big stories right now and

3714
02:49:35,059 --> 02:49:31,100
this is it has surfaced this is

3715
02:49:37,910 --> 02:49:35,069
anonymous that web browser called tor is

3716
02:49:43,099 --> 02:49:37,920
getting a major overhaul

3717
02:49:45,880 --> 02:49:43,109
right now tor is the legacy onion system

3718
02:49:51,170 --> 02:49:45,890
that has been around for 10 years is

3719
02:49:53,480 --> 02:49:51,180
it's its faults are starting to show the

3720
02:49:58,969 --> 02:49:53,490
aura and this is coming from right now

3721
02:50:00,559 --> 02:49:58,979
this is on the dark web and they are it

3722
02:50:02,510 --> 02:50:00,569
was just written in a blog post about

3723
02:50:05,059 --> 02:50:02,520
the update the new system will be is

3724
02:50:07,099 --> 02:50:05,069
well needed improvement that fixes many

3725
02:50:08,870 --> 02:50:07,109
shortcomings of the old design and

3726
02:50:11,960 --> 02:50:08,880
builds a solid foundation for future

3727
02:50:14,059 --> 02:50:11,970
onion network the tor network works by

3728
02:50:15,980 --> 02:50:14,069
bouncing your connection through

3729
02:50:19,099 --> 02:50:15,990
multiple users computers on a network

3730
02:50:22,519 --> 02:50:19,109
before you finally connect to the

3731
02:50:24,349 --> 02:50:22,529
internet via an exit node so someone

3732
02:50:26,240 --> 02:50:24,359
from Sweden might have their connection

3733
02:50:28,849 --> 02:50:26,250
routed through South Africa Canada

3734
02:50:31,690 --> 02:50:28,859
Denmark before finally connecting to the

3735
02:50:35,420 --> 02:50:31,700
internet via Mongolia for instance

3736
02:50:38,269 --> 02:50:35,430
masking their true identity and location

3737
02:50:40,700 --> 02:50:38,279
the browser can be used to view regular

3738
02:50:42,910 --> 02:50:40,710
in the internet anonymously as well but

3739
02:50:45,591 --> 02:50:42,920
also gets users access to the dark web

3740
02:50:48,051 --> 02:50:45,601
websites that are an indexed by

3741
02:50:50,720 --> 02:50:48,061
search engines like Google and are only

3742
02:50:53,571 --> 02:50:50,730
accessible if they're if they are using

3743
02:50:55,400 --> 02:50:53,581
tor historically is and has been

3744
02:50:58,551 --> 02:50:55,410
associated with online drug market

3745
02:51:01,041 --> 02:50:58,561
places like the Silk Road and general

3746
02:51:03,171 --> 02:51:01,051
criminality but it's also used by

3747
02:51:05,871 --> 02:51:03,181
everyone from political activists

3748
02:51:08,720 --> 02:51:05,881
fearing retribution to privacy activists

3749
02:51:11,211 --> 02:51:08,730
even Facebook offers a special link to

3750
02:51:13,761 --> 02:51:11,221
the site for people connecting via tor I

3751
02:51:16,371 --> 02:51:13,771
don't know if you ever knew that well

3752
02:51:18,321 --> 02:51:16,381
the new update focuses on security and

3753
02:51:21,321 --> 02:51:18,331
lays the groundwork for future

3754
02:51:23,390 --> 02:51:21,331
improvements but Torah says that for

3755
02:51:26,301 --> 02:51:23,400
regular users the main difference is

3756
02:51:31,071 --> 02:51:26,311
that links for the dark web sites will

3757
02:51:35,661 --> 02:51:31,081
be way longer now I'm looking at one of

3758
02:51:37,341 --> 02:51:35,671
the dot onion websites right now and I'm

3759
02:51:39,531 --> 02:51:37,351
inside one day three of us seven eight

3760
02:51:45,381 --> 02:51:39,541
nine 10 11 12 13 14 15

3761
02:51:50,541 --> 02:51:45,391
let's go with 45 characters and that is

3762
02:51:52,881 --> 02:51:50,551
verses a 15 character way of getting

3763
02:51:55,131 --> 02:51:52,891
through from before but the legacy

3764
02:51:58,281 --> 02:51:55,141
system and the old links will continue

3765
02:52:00,321 --> 02:51:58,291
to work for a few years absolutely

3766
02:52:05,150 --> 02:52:00,331
fascinating but the other part of this

3767
02:52:07,671 --> 02:52:05,160
that most people don't know tor was a

3768
02:52:11,060 --> 02:52:07,681
three-letter agency government military

3769
02:52:14,171 --> 02:52:11,070
design from the word go it was a way for

3770
02:52:17,541 --> 02:52:14,181
the government to shift stuff around

3771
02:52:20,631 --> 02:52:17,551
anonymously to not be discovered and to

3772
02:52:22,730 --> 02:52:20,641
keep their stuff a secret now think

3773
02:52:26,541 --> 02:52:22,740
about that for a second so is this

3774
02:52:30,201 --> 02:52:26,551
upgrade government driven think about

3775
02:52:32,871 --> 02:52:30,211
that we never know the truth never never

3776
02:52:34,520 --> 02:52:32,881
one of the things that and I'll leave

3777
02:52:37,850 --> 02:52:34,530
you with this that Bryce had brought up

3778
02:52:40,730 --> 02:52:37,860
he brought up North Korea and and those

3779
02:52:43,701 --> 02:52:40,740
headlines right now this is the bizarre

3780
02:52:45,711 --> 02:52:43,711
part about North Korea and and the

3781
02:52:47,841 --> 02:52:45,721
headlines and what we are being fed

3782
02:52:49,791 --> 02:52:47,851
today and I need you to think about this

3783
02:52:53,781 --> 02:52:49,801
for a second when it comes to North

3784
02:52:56,470 --> 02:52:53,791
Korea nobody listening to this show has

3785
02:52:59,550 --> 02:52:56,480
been hanging out with Kim fatty fat

3786
02:53:02,490 --> 02:52:59,560
nobody there's nobody in the

3787
02:53:04,500 --> 02:53:02,500
to date nobody a couple of reporters

3788
02:53:06,210 --> 02:53:04,510
over North Korea reporting out of North

3789
02:53:09,960 --> 02:53:06,220
Korea they haven't been in the inside

3790
02:53:12,719 --> 02:53:09,970
circles of nothing nothing so all of the

3791
02:53:15,540 --> 02:53:12,729
news that we have today right now that

3792
02:53:18,510 --> 02:53:15,550
are part of the headlines are generated

3793
02:53:20,880 --> 02:53:18,520
they are written they're not based on

3794
02:53:22,859 --> 02:53:20,890
fact I'm not saying that there are

3795
02:53:24,599 --> 02:53:22,869
nuclear tests happening I'm not saying

3796
02:53:27,620 --> 02:53:24,609
that missiles aren't being fired what I

3797
02:53:31,530 --> 02:53:27,630
am saying is there is nobody today

3798
02:53:34,620 --> 02:53:31,540
writing news right now in our mainstream

3799
02:53:37,859 --> 02:53:34,630
media that is part of the inside circle

3800
02:53:40,710 --> 02:53:37,869
everything is written and fictitious is

3801
02:53:43,740 --> 02:53:40,720
it true or accurate there's a

3802
02:53:47,010 --> 02:53:43,750
possibility there but none of it and I

3803
02:53:50,010 --> 02:53:47,020
do mean none of it has anything based on

3804
02:53:53,639 --> 02:53:50,020
reality and that is the scary part

3805
02:53:56,670 --> 02:53:53,649
none of it none of it none of it nobody

3806
02:53:59,580 --> 02:53:56,680
is in the inside of anything over in

3807
02:54:01,790 --> 02:53:59,590
North Korea so I don't know what to read

3808
02:54:06,479 --> 02:54:01,800
I don't know what to believe

3809
02:54:07,800 --> 02:54:06,489
think about that for a second this is

3810
02:54:10,380 --> 02:54:07,810
fade to black

3811
02:54:13,050 --> 02:54:10,390
now what another great episode I got to

3812
02:54:14,880 --> 02:54:13,060
thank price table you can go all of his

3813
02:54:18,599 --> 02:54:14,890
links are over at Jimmy Church radio

3814
02:54:21,120 --> 02:54:18,609
calm go and check out the new book all

3815
02:54:24,750 --> 02:54:21,130
of his old books it's all right there

3816
02:54:27,120 --> 02:54:24,760
cyber blaze at bryce is Abel on Twitter

3817
02:54:28,800 --> 02:54:27,130
beta blacks executive producers Rita

3818
02:54:31,080 --> 02:54:28,810
Kumari on shows produced by Hill Jay

3819
02:54:33,870 --> 02:54:31,090
Paul marked eco VAR l j3 Renae Jonas

3820
02:54:36,179 --> 02:54:33,880
Thank You Dennis thank you Bob announced

3821
02:54:38,819 --> 02:54:36,189
as our Steve harder gene veto a mark D

3822
02:54:42,090 --> 02:54:38,829
Kovar f-- 80 by dale webmaster drew the

3823
02:54:45,269 --> 02:54:42,100
geek music doug aldrich intro space boy

3824
02:54:47,580 --> 02:54:45,279
space boy music.com beta-blockers

3825
02:54:51,059 --> 02:54:47,590
produced by kjsurya that work

3826
02:54:54,479 --> 02:54:51,069
syndication is kgr a the planet tomorrow

3827
02:54:57,330 --> 02:54:54,489
night right here Tricia Eastman it's

3828
02:55:00,269 --> 02:54:57,340
going to be a serious not to miss show

3829
02:55:02,220 --> 02:55:00,279
this broadcasts on a copyright of 2017

3830
02:55:04,560 --> 02:55:02,230
by baby black in the game change event

3831
02:55:05,820 --> 02:55:04,570
it cannot be rebroadcast download a copy

3832
02:55:08,310 --> 02:55:05,830
to use anywhere in the known universe

3833
02:55:09,990 --> 02:55:08,320
without written permission from fade to

3834
02:55:11,671 --> 02:55:10,000
black of the GameChanger Network

3835
02:55:14,701 --> 02:55:11,681
I'm your host Jimmy Church follow me on

3836
02:55:19,650 --> 02:55:14,711
Twitter at JD Radio until tomorrow night

3837
02:55:26,800 --> 02:55:19,660
everybody be safe go back Lee taffy